Originally posted by DARTH POWER
The problems not Superman landing multiple punches in one go. That is one of his main powers and biggest advantages in a fight after all. The problem is claims of 1,000 hits, or 10,000 hits, or A Million hits before the likes of Hulk, Thor or Thanos could even react??That's where the problem starts.
Because again your posting individual feats, but for the sake of PIS Off your combining them all together in a way that we haven't seen (at least not in a Quantified way).
A Planet Busting Punch is going to cost a heck of a lot more in energy than chilling with the Flash. So no, from those individual feats we can't just assume 10,000 Planet Busting Punches in a Micro-Second.
Dozens of Moon Shattering Punches in 1 second though? Yeah sure. There's more than enough evidence to assume that much. But then is that enough? Thanos is crazy durable you know, even without his forcefield. Whilst with PIS/CIS Off his Forcefield will automatically be up.
He actually has unleashed all that on Thanos, who incidentally tanked it all. So Thor actually has displayed most of that. (Not excatly a God Blast but a very very powerful blast enhanced by Thano's own Beams). So like I said no guarentee of a speed combo KO'ing him either.
Still the point is can we just assume that Thor can combine that kind of attack, with a true God Blast, with Planet Shattering Mjolnir blasts, whilst teleporting all over the place?
I don't know, it seems a bit out there. I have deep reservations we can just assume all that, because like the case with Supes, we don't know if he has the energy/power output to do all those things simultaneously.
See and this is where you get tiersome. This is also not the Problem because I didn't make those claims. You should discuss this Problem with another poster. IMO Superman will land multiple punches on Thanos, HV and FB as we seen it with a force big enough to hurt or kill beings that are Tans+level, as we have seen in OWAW. How many that are is not relevant to me.
Oh we have seen it. We saw it during OWAW. First you see him giving his best, his enemy is like a statue and he unleashes all his attacks against him and after a while he succeedes to bring him down, even after giving his best. Once he changed his mindset, let go, or dropped his mental blockades if you wish, he was oneshoting those Probes with his attacks, punches, HV etc. He fought not one but multiple at once. Soe the power increase was there and obvious. He displayed already everything I tell you. Superman in his history went also against opponents with his normal weaker mindset that are above Thanos, like Darkseids Avatars and won. CIS and PIS off Superman is OWAW Superman and FC Superman I woul recommend to read it.
Thanos forcefield, as good as it proved against energy based attacks was still not as effective against physical assaults, like PG Thor or Drax. Also his durability. It might be Skyfatherlevel against energy attacks but punches make him bleed even from beings lower than HH. His physical durability is far below his energy damagesoak. Maybe due to tech.
As for his omniblasts, he might never have the chance to spam them but even so, Superman during OWAW vibrated through physical and energy attacks with ease, or used his speed to avoid them.
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I reall don't know why you insist on bringing more Thor into this. It is not Thor vs Thanos, I already agreed that Thor can do multiple things at once while firing a Godblast, now you change it to him sending multiple godblasts from mjolnir or whatever. Drop it. The point was already discussed and cleared. It is a tactic that won't work, it is not Thor we put against Thanos.
Going by OWAW he has the energy, speed and strength to do that. You may see OWAW as one of the biggest writer wanks out there and Loeb did a good job but it is still valid and stands, the same is true for FC.
Originally posted by Bentley
Kang is not as insecure as Thanos nor Doom, he risked that power willingly 🙂
Doom and Thanos lose their power because of their own shitty personalities working against them, not due to directly losing to the heroes at the end of the day.
Kang is the very definition of loser.👇
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbeuse whatever excuse makes you feel safe.
No I stopped waisting my time with an angry child and continue the debate with someone who can behave and think. Big difference.😉
You did exactly the same as me then backed down , probably because you can't argue against Thanos cis less tactics.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Wrong. Kang underestimated his opponents, and lost the power in a straight up fight.😂Doom and Thanos lose their power because of their own shitty personalities working against them, not due to directly losing to the heroes at the end of the day.
Kang is the very definition of loser.👇
He stated there was a risk, any player knows that there must be a chance to lose the game for it to be a game at all. That's actual bravado and character, Doom and Thanos need to take lessons to be as daring as Kang.
But he did lose this once, hence I agree he was the loser 😱
Originally posted by Bentley
He stated there was a risk, any player knows that there must be a chance to lose the game for it to be a game at all. That's actual bravado and character, Doom and Thanos need to take lessons to be as daring as Kang.But he did lose this once, hence I agree he was the loser 😱
Fact: Both Thanos and Doom have usurped greater power sources than the energies of a dying Celestial.👆
Fact: Both Thanos and Doom never lost the power to the heroes themselves, rather they did so due to their own messed up subconscious.👆
Fact: Both Thanos and Doom performed stupendous feats of power before inevitably losing their omnipotence. Kang failed to so much as even beat up a skyfather before getting chumped by 2 sub-omega mutants.👆
If anything, his latest humiliation shows how consistent Kang is at being the loser chump who can never really enter the Big Villain Leagues which Doom and Thanos are a part of.😂
Originally posted by Epicurus
Risks were there when Thanos and Doom made their conquests as well. In fact Doom came close to failing, and nearly died in the process of obtaining the Beyonder's power but ultimately succeeded.
Risks that they would've evaded if they could, Kang in the other hand, is looking for a challenge because he rules time unopposed. Everything else is the spoils of his conquest. He already has built artifacts that can shape up the multiverse. He's a time-traveler, if he wanted to collect artifacts or celestial powers he could do it without so much as decent opposition.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Fact: Both Thanos and Doom have usurped greater power sources than the energies of a dying Celestial.👆
I guess they were that much insecure?
Originally posted by Epicurus
Fact: Both Thanos and Doom never lost the power to the heroes themselves, rather they did so due to their own messed up subconscious.👆
Again, those heavy inferiority complexes aren't doing them any favors. Losing to yourself because your lack of character surely sounds good to you, for Kang losing to a deserving opponent is much more valuable 👆
Originally posted by Epicurus
Fact: Both Thanos and Doom performed stupendous feats of power before inevitably losing their omnipotence. Kang failed to so much as even beat up a skyfather before getting chumped by 2 sub-omega mutants.👆:
Actually, Kang lost because Sunfire became an omega mutant out of the blue, so it seems you also underestimate his opponents awesr
Originally posted by Epicurus
If anything, his latest humiliation shows how consistent Kang is at being the loser chump who can never really enter the Big Villain Leagues which Doom and Thanos are a part of.😂
Kang is the only villain that could join such a select group, it seems that makes Doom/Thanos fans go ballistic against him. As a matter of fact, Doom and Thanos are great characters but at times they are depicted as "too perfect", Kang is flawed and should remain flawed, it's part of what makes the character great.
Bottomline, don't be insecure like Doom and Thanos, embrace your inner Kang.
Originally posted by Rao Kal ElThanos vs. Superman straight up. Cisless isn't a way for a character to fight out of character anyways
Are We doing this or not? Are you backing down again?
😉
Originally posted by Time ImmemorialThanos bfr'd him and referred to him as an annoyance. He then decimates his team with relative ease.
Thanos ran from Glads?Quan you better figure a way out of this one😂
Originally posted by BentleyThe same as a nanosecond statement passes as evidence. If the dialogue doesn't tell us we simply don't know. You can't pick and choose. The dialogue was pretty spot on. Quit ignoring the Nudc universe.
So now a passing statement goes as evidece for you? No wonder why you evade debating with judges. I guess it make sense you're scared of Rao 👆Or maybe you're just being like Thanos, afraid of Gladiator biscuits
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I don't like having my time wasted. You already said I won anyways. Thanos vs. Superman with all the evidence. Why run ? You seem petrified.
You punk out as always, Is OK, Your FEAR is exquisite
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
This is basically how you look likeYou punk out, once more... AWESOME!!!
So ok at least we know now that Quan agrees, Thanos would lose against Superman in a CISless scenario. He backs down from the challange.
Progress.
This is also the problem. People see a Tier list and decide after it but those lists have flaws, there are pople in low herald that are far above hh.
Superman suprasses his "peers" if the story requires it, like he did in OWAW or FC where he was beyond the likes of Thanos. Thanos is always extremly high but his feats are below Supes best. Only his outside amps, like the IG and the HOTU make him appear better than he is. Against skyfathers like Odin he loses.
Also. Marvel was never about insane powerlevels, it was about storytelling, that was thei USP and it worked, DC had a problem with it's too powerful chars and they went the Marvel route now they are closer but still it's.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbeNo, I don't and no his feats are not. Thanos with the HOTU is behind anything Superman has ever had access to on panel.
So ok at least we know now that Quan agrees, Thanos would lose against Superman in a CISless scenario. He backs down from the challange.Progress.
This is also the problem. People see a Tier list and decide after it but those lists have flaws, there are pople in low herald that are far above hh.
Superman suprasses his "peers" if the story requires it, like he did in OWAW or FC where he was beyond the likes of Thanos. Thanos is always extremly high but his feats are below Supes best. Only his outside amps, like the IG and the HOTU make him appear better than he is. Against skyfathers like Odin he loses.
Also. Marvel was never about insane powerlevels, it was about storytelling, that was thei USP and it worked, DC had a problem with it's too powerful chars and they went the Marvel route now they are closer but still it's.
Thanos is the big bad whereas Superman is the guy who needs to band up to take on lessers.
