Originally posted by Nephthys
I don't really think thats right. I can't recall anything about Vitiate showing any awareness about the fight or being directly involved. Syo was fighting the First Son's will, not Vitiate's. If Vitiate had been watching and felt it was necessary to amp the Son he would have possessed him like he did Kira.
"The First Son" is an embodiment of the Emperor's will however.
Also, why do you think Scourge's "swiftly" means anything like hours? It's far more likely that he means a day or two. Considering the fact the ritual took years to prepare....
Originally posted by Selenial
I'm speaking solely in combat prowess here, Blades, Force offense etc.
I've not seen anything from him that would put him on Dooku's level in combat. On these forums, though, most rely on a bunch of implied power, quotes, and accomplishments (most of which lack context), so it's not surprising people here put him on Yoda's level.
HoT's hype stems from him standing there, blocking lightning until Vitiate runs into his saber. That in itself doesn't show us skill, speed, or a great deal of other factors that would contribute to an actual all out duel.
Don't get me wrong, I've seen a few most some good showing, but nothing Yoda-good.
Originally posted by Selenial
"The First Son" is an embodiment of the Emperor's will however.Also, why do you think Scourge's "swiftly" means anything like hours? It's far more likely that he means a day or two. Considering the fact the ritual took years to prepare....
He's an individual consciousness who was born of and is linked to Vitiate's will. The First Son is a separate personality to Vitiate though and has his own will, power and mind. The Children aren't just mini-Vitiate's in peoples mind, they're like split-personalities.
Because Scourge is telling you to hurry up to the Temple to kill Vitiate before he recovers. If they had days he'd make that clear and tell you to be more cautious. Vitiate also does noticeably recover if you waste time saving your companion, which both he and Scourge note and chide you over.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
HoT's hype stems from him standing there, blocking lightning until Vitiate runs into his saber. That in itself doesn't show us skill, speed, or a great deal of other factors that would contribute to an actual all out duel.
Except the Hero had already beaten Vitiate in an all-out duel by that point. Vitiate is on his knees at the start of the cutscene for a reason. 😬
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Lol the difference between Tier 2 and Tier 1 is considerable. Look at how Sidious treated Dooku.
Dooku isn't tier 2 and Sidious isn't tier 1. Luke is the only tier 1. Then it's like Yoda, Sidious Tulak Hord blah tier 2. Then Malgus, Revan, Vader tier 3. THEN Dooku, etc etc tier 4.
In terms of power, at least.