MoS Superman vs Hulk & Kurse & Destroyer & Thor

Originally posted by FrothByte
You do realize that glass cage was spinning at high velocity right? Making it ridiculously hard to get your bearings. Besides, Thor escaped that cage without injury so I don't know what you're crying about. If you want to talk embarrassing look no further than Clark allowing his father to get killed over a dog.

Originally posted by Inhuman
They had more important issues than staring at an old guy with his dog....like a ****ing tornado coming their way.

Someone and their dog facing a tornado... where have I heard this before? 😏

Clearly Pa Kent isn't dead, and is just chilling in Oz.

Originally posted by TH3_V01D
High velocity or not, it shouldnt be a problem for Thor, LOL so you now bring up Pa Kent death to lowball CLARK KENT? admit it dude, Whedon ****ed up big time with the cage scene, i never seen something as pathetic in my life, i couldnt take Thor seriously after that, even in Thor 2 dude has to take a train to fight the big bad. Marvel studios are doing a horrible job with the character in the MCU, he is not only boring but ****ing weak too, Hulk has a whole setpiece for himself at least.

No, that cage scene actually makes sense. When you're being dropped and the cage is spinning at high velocity, you have nothing to grab on to and no way to get your bearings.

Thor getting tossed around like he was in a spin dryer would have made it difficult for him to get out.

But he eventually did and it didn't take him that long. SO I don't know what you're complaining about. Or maybe you're the type of guy who wants to see superheroes capable of doing anything and everything with a snap of their fingers?

Originally posted by Inhuman
It was handled poorly.
I can think of a number of ways that PA kent lives. Clark letting him die looked pretty bad and lazy as far as the writing.
I get the message they were trying to send , they just failed IMO.
Clark could have run into his dads side and shielded both of them (and dog too) from when the tornado came. After it was over they could have just said they were lucky to survive.
Or Clark could have used super speed at the right time to save pa kent. the handful of spectators would not know wtf happened. They would probably think a gust of wind came in and blew them away.
and so on and so on... Pa kent death depended what a handful of spectators would think? They had more important issues than staring at an old guy with his dog....like a ****ing tornado coming their way.
They would probably seem crazy saying that a god saved the old man.
And if they HAD to show pa kent die, there are tons of better ways to have done it than they way he went out.

Also Pa Kent dying didnt mean anything in the end because Clark just ended up dismissing everything Pa Kent taught him and died for by listening to Jor-El's (whom he just had met) advice to reveal himself tot he world.

lol what a clusterfuq

You know what would have made an awesome death? Something to humble Kal and make him realize he can't do everything? Having him die of cancer or another terminal illness. Or him failing to save him in time for being around doing the vigilante thing. ANYTHING is better than that stupid tornado shit.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Someone and their dog facing a tornado... where have I heard this before? 😏

Clearly Pa Kent isn't dead, and is just chilling in Oz.

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Originally posted by FrothByte
No, that cage scene actually makes sense. When you're being dropped and the cage is spinning at high velocity, you have nothing to grab on to and no way to get your bearings.

Thor getting tossed around like he was in a spin dryer would have made it difficult for him to get out.

But he eventually did and it didn't take him that long. SO I don't know what you're complaining about. Or maybe you're the type of guy who wants to see superheroes capable of doing anything and everything with a snap of their fingers?

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Originally posted by Zack Fair
Agreed. It was the biggest, lamest point/plot twist of the movie. Truly shitty.

You know what would have made an awesome death? Something to humble Kal and make him realize he can't do everything? Having him die of cancer or another terminal illness. Or him failing to save him in time for being around doing the vigilante thing. ANYTHING is better than that stupid tornado shit.

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Originally posted by FrothByte
If you want to talk embarrassing look no further than Clark allowing his father to get killed over a dog.

LOL So true.

Originally posted by TH3_V01D
Whedon ****ed up big time with the cage scene, i never seen something as pathetic in my life, i couldnt take Thor seriously after that,

Get Outta here. That was an Awesome scene. Great ending to the whole Hellicarrier action. Was complete non stop epicness from the moment Banner becomes Hulk.

Originally posted by TH3_V01D
even in Thor 2 dude has to take a train to fight the big bad. Marvel studios are doing a horrible job with the character in the MCU, he is not only boring but ****ing weak too, Hulk has a whole setpiece for himself at least.

That's your opinion.

I'm not very happy with Thor 2, (although him catching the Sub isn't one of the film's problems) but Thor 1 was Awesome. It was really the first Thor and the first Iron Man that built up Phase 1 of the MCU and brought in all the excitement for the Avengers.

And he was brilliant in Avengers. Thor, Loki's and Hulk's scenes were some of the biggest and best parts of the film.

How do any of your points change the fact that Superman is going to beat everyone in this thread to death with his bare hands while zipping around at speeds faster than they can think?

Originally posted by NemeBro
How do any of your points change the fact that Superman is going to beat everyone in this thread to death with his bare hands while zipping around at speeds faster than they can think?

My points on that were made a few pages ago.

Yeah but they sucked.

Originally posted by NemeBro
How do any of your points change the fact that Superman is going to beat everyone in this thread to death with his bare hands while zipping around at speeds faster than they can think?

Because in the movie, he slows down to normal-ish speeds whenever he grapples or slugs it out. If he makes that mistake here there's a chance he gets overpowered.

He is still faster than anyone in this fight, looking how slow every marvel character fight in the movies, there is no chance in hell that he gonna get tagged., you cant use Zod or Faora as example becuase those two make the marvel characters look like snails.
Loki vs Thor ; Abomb vs Hulk they are BY FAR much slower fights, in fact one could argue that Namek is faster version of Kurse.

CIS Off Superman. Severely pissed off. He will single them out and proceed to beat their asses in before the rest of the people catch up.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Because in the movie, he slows down to normal-ish speeds whenever he grapples or slugs it out.

Did you even watch the movie?

Originally posted by NemeBro
No he doesn't. His punches are fast enough to break the sound barrier.

Did you even watch the movie?

Not his punches. It's his flight that creates sonicbooms. Even if he has a fist pointed forward that's not his punch but his flight that breaks the sound barrier. Though I'm still wondering how he takes out The Destroyer.

Did you even watch the movie? Did you see them kryptonians all moving around in blur speed as they fought? No. Because they resumed normal-ish speeds when they fight.

I'm still unconvinced the kryptonians can maintain their superspeed for a long duration, unless it's flight speed. They seem to do it in bursts and need to stop to get their bearings.

In any case, I'm not even saying Superman loses. It just won't be as easy as people seem to think. I say he wins maybe 7/10

He's just confusing travel speed and reaction speed, you'd be amazed how many people can't tell the difference.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He's just confusing travel speed and reaction speed, you'd be amazed how many people can't tell the difference.

Yeah. People here seem to think that anyone who breaks the sound barrier can automatically move like the Flash.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Not his punches. It's his flight that creates sonicbooms. Did you even watch the movie?

Wrong their punches were creating sonic booms. Saying anything other wise is flat out lies. Why do you continue to lie about MoS movie. Did you actually watch the movie?

YouTube video

I see shockwaves produced by impact not sonic booms resulting from velocity. I do hope you know the difference.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I see shockwaves produced by impact not sonic booms resulting from velocity. I do hope you know the difference.

The fact the those shockwaves only happen with the punches thrown while flying should clue them into the fact that flight speed plays a rather large part....but then you can't really expect much from Superman fans.

Superman wins 6/10