Originally posted by FrothByte
Not hard to understand, and I agree with you.However, what I'd like to point out is that the amount of strength necessary for Hulk to stop that leviathan's forward momentum enough that it needed to flip over seems more than the amount of strength MOS needed to support that oil rig which was falling AT AN ANGLE.
Superman wasn't supporting the entire weight of that tower after all. It was leaning at an angle which he tried to stop, meaning he was only supporting part of the weight.
I was never comparing the feats as a direct show of strength, saying one is stronger than the other one. All I did was point out that someone can't claim that Hulk would have been able to lift and throw the oil tower, easily and with one hand, based solely on the Leviathan feat. That is it.
I completely forgot about the World Engine. I guess because I assumed it was an unquantifiable feat. But you guys make some excellent points. MOS withstanding the World Engine is far above anything Hulk and Thor have displayed 👆
Originally posted by TheGrat1Edit: The Joutunheim buster is so overrated. That place was literally falling apart all on its own by the time Thor and co. got there. All he did was start a chain reaction on a brittle, mostly unsupported, and relatively thin ice shelf. He didn't even Grand Canyon it. There was still plenty of ice for a small army of frost giants to traverse in a short amount of time.
Now that's lowballing. The Joutunheim buster was just that powerful. It was a Landscape destroying blast. Let's not forget in Avengers when Thor used his Lightning to one shot the Leviathons. If it can 1 shot them, then it can easily rip through skyscrapers. His full on Lightning blasts pack a heck of a punch.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
I completely forgot about the World Engine. I guess because I assumed it was an unquantifiable feat. But you guys make some excellent points. MOS withstanding the World Engine is far above anything Hulk and Thor have displayed 👆Now that's lowballing. The Joutunheim buster was just that powerful. It was a Landscape destroying blast. Let's not forget in Avengers when Thor used his Lightning to one shot the Leviathons. If it can 1 shot them, then it can easily rip through skyscrapers. His full on Lightning blasts pack a heck of a punch.
He states and interesting fact though, the place was falling apart and it was on a ice shelf and nothing was beneath it cept unsupported ice shelf. Thor caused a chain reaction like what would happen on a lake or pond of ice.
Pretty sure Loki was razzing Lauffy when he said something about restoring it to all its former glory.
Sounds like global warming was in effect. 😆
Lol , the sad thing is this guy maybe thinks he has a point, even ignoring that Clark (mind you he wasnt even Superman and like Jor el said he wasnt at his full potential) holding a Oil Rig is still much above of anything showed by T.I.N.O a.k.a Thor in name only
Thor fighting for his life in a cage is one of the most embarrassing things i have seen in a superhero movie.
Originally posted by TH3_V01D
Lol , the sad thing is this guy maybe thinks he has a point, even ignoring that Clark (mind you he wasnt even Superman and like Jor el said he wasnt at his full potential) holding a Oil Rig is still much above of anything showed by T.I.N.O a.k.a Thor in name onlyThor fighting for his life in a cage is one of the most embarrassing things i have seen in a superhero movie.
You do realize that glass cage was spinning at high velocity right? Making it ridiculously hard to get your bearings. Besides, Thor escaped that cage without injury so I don't know what you're crying about. If you want to talk embarrassing look no further than Clark allowing his father to get killed over a dog.
Originally posted by FrothByte
You do realize that glass cage was spinning at high velocity right? Making it ridiculously hard to get your bearings. Besides, Thor escaped that cage without injury so I don't know what you're crying about. If you want to talk embarrassing look no further than Clark allowing his father to get killed over a dog.
You really think thats why he let his dad die. His dad's ultimate goal was to keep his secret and protect his sons identity. Jon put his hand up and told his soN no. Johnathon always dies, thats the story. The fact that he chose to die to protect his son was the ultimate sacrifice.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You really think thats why he let his dad die. His dad's ultimate goal was to keep his secret and protect his sons identity. Jon put his hand up and told his soN no. Johnathon always dies, thats the story. The fact that he chose to die to protect his son was the ultimate sacrifice.
Yeah but Pa Kent endangered his life to get a dog. I get WHY he didn't want Clark to show his powers but that scene was just stupid and could have been handled a lot better. And what do you mean Jonathan always dies? He's not Uncle Ben.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Yeah but Pa Kent endangered his life to get a dog. I get WHY he didn't want Clark to show his powers but that scene was just stupid and could have been handled a lot better. And what do you mean Jonathan always dies? He's not Uncle Ben.
Johnathon has to die for Clark to become Superman this is how the story has always gone. In this showing Jon is really pressuring Clark to stay on the farm and it's inhibiting him from becoming who he is meant to be. There is no Superman story without the life and death of Jonathon.
It was handled poorly.
I can think of a number of ways that PA kent lives. Clark letting him die looked pretty bad and lazy as far as the writing.
I get the message they were trying to send , they just failed IMO.
Clark could have run into his dads side and shielded both of them (and dog too) from when the tornado came. After it was over they could have just said they were lucky to survive.
Or Clark could have used super speed at the right time to save pa kent. the handful of spectators would not know wtf happened. They would probably think a gust of wind came in and blew them away.
and so on and so on... Pa kent death depended what a handful of spectators would think? They had more important issues than staring at an old guy with his dog....like a ****ing tornado coming their way.
They would probably seem crazy saying that a god saved the old man.
And if they HAD to show pa kent die, there are tons of better ways to have done it than they way he went out.
Also Pa Kent dying didnt mean anything in the end because Clark just ended up dismissing everything Pa Kent taught him and died for by listening to Jor-El's (whom he just had met) advice to reveal himself tot he world.
lol what a clusterfuq
Originally posted by Inhuman
It was handled poorly.
I can think of a number of ways that PA kent lives. Clark letting him die looked pretty bad and lazy as far as the writing.
I get the message they were trying to send , they just failed IMO.
Clark could have run into his dads side and shielded both of them (and dog too) from when the tornado came. After it was over they could have just said they were lucky to survive.
Or Clark could have used super speed at the right time to save pa kent. the handful of spectators would not know wtf happened. They would probably think a gust of wind came in and blew them away.
and so on and so on... Pa kent death depended what a handful of spectators would think? They had more important issues than staring at an old guy with his dog....like a ****ing tornado coming their way.
They would probably seem crazy saying that a god saved the old man.
And if they HAD to show pa kent die, there are tons of better ways to have done it than they way he went out.Also Pa Kent dying didnt mean anything in the end because Clark just ended up dismissing everything Pa Kent taught him and died for by listening to Jor-El's (whom he just had met) advice to reveal himself tot he world.
lol what a clusterfuq
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You made me laugh.
Jon wanted Clark to hide who he was, Clark was tired of hiding. Jor El gave him the needed advice to show him that he could be who he was without fearing humans.
Jor El was a far advanced species and was not raised on earth and could see the big picture, where is Jon was only human and could only see "fearing the government and humans" side to Clark's powers.
Jon did all he knew to do, which is what human instinct is to do with protecting their kids and themselves if they are different or afraid. Jor El showed Clark he had nothing to fear for in fact he was like a god to them.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
😆You made me laugh.
Jon wanted Clark to hide who he was, Clark was tired of hiding. Jor El gave him the needed advice to show him that he could be who he was without fearing humans.
Jor El was a far advanced species and was not raised on earth and could see the big picture, where is Jon was only human and could only see "fearing the government and humans" side to Clark's powers.
Jon did all he knew to do, which is what human instinct is to do with protecting their kids and themselves if they are different or afraid. Jor El showed Clark he had nothing to fear for in fact he was like a god to them.
I know, but still seemed Pa Kent died for no reason other than to try to have be emotional scene ( that i think failed in that respect)
Originally posted by Inhuman
I know, but still seemed Pa Kent died for no reason other than to try to have be emotional scene ( that i think failed in that respect)
Honestly Pa pissed me off when he said Clark should have let the school bus of kids die. After Pa died, I was happy he was out of the way.