MoS Superman vs Hulk & Kurse & Destroyer & Thor

Originally posted by carver9
You all are Crazy. I just thought about something...that oil ridge that Superman struggled to lift, Hulk would have thrown that with one hand and with ease.

Good job Supes hadn't reached the peak of his powers yet. That was before his training by Jor-El.

That being said, Thor and Hulk vs MOS would be a much better fight.

I'm not one of those who says Supes stomps Hulk in 1 punch. I think that's a bit of a silly idea personally. But at the same time it's difficult to deny Supes overall physical superiority to either Thor or Hulk individually.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Good job Supes hadn't reached the peak of his powers yet. That was before his training by Jor-El.

That being said, Thor and Hulk vs MOS would be a much better fight.

I'm not one of those who says Supes stomps Hulk in 1 punch. I think that's a bit of a silly idea personally. But at the same time it's difficult to deny Supes overall physical superiority to either Thor or Hulk individually.

So he got physically stronger during the movie? Where are you getting this from? When was this said?

Originally posted by carver9
So he got physically stronger during the movie? Where are you getting this from? When was this said?

Do you not remember the line from Jor-El, about the only way he'll know how powerful he is, is if he keeps pushing the limits of his boundaries. And then he began doing that.

Don't tell your not going to accept that as his pushing his strength limits and getting stronger? Because that's clearly what it meant.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Do you not remember the line from Jor-El, about the only way he'll know how powerful he is, is if he keeps pushing the limits of his boundaries. And then he began doing that.

Don't tell your not going to accept that as his pushing his strength limits and getting stronger? Because that's clearly what it meant.

So him doing all of that screaming when he was trying to push the oil tank was him faking it? He really wasn't struggling lifting it because he was testing his strength?

Originally posted by carver9
So him doing all of that screaming when he was trying to push the oil tank was him faking it? He really wasn't struggling lifting it because he was testing his strength?

What? That was before his training. Are you denying he became more powerful after his training when it was flat out stated?

Come one dude, your better than that. Your not Quanchi.

If any power increase was stated for Hulk, you know you'd be the first to be pointing that out.

Originally posted by carver9
So him doing all of that screaming when he was trying to push the oil tank was him faking it? He really wasn't struggling lifting it because he was testing his strength?

Are u really this stupid, we went over this already.

Originally posted by carver9
So him doing all of that screaming when he was trying to push the oil tank was him faking it? He really wasn't struggling lifting it because he was testing his strength?

He performed that feat on the fly in a bad situation while trying to protect the people. Why would he lift it and throw it when it was already buckling from the weight overhead and fish the whole thing jack knifing and blowing up killing everyone. Why didn't the hulk puch the leviathan up and away from his team and back into the worm hole instead of endangering them?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Hulk had help in killing the leviathan but stopping it's momentum? That was all hulk.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
But he [B]didn't stop all of its momentum, or it would not have tried to flip over.

And lol at Carver suggesting that because Hulk punched the Leviathan, he could easily lift and throw an object that weighs hundreds (if not thousands) of tons with one hand. Then why, when he had a firm grip on it with both of his hands, didn't he just lift and toss the Leviathan when it was going to crash down on the Avengers? Because he couldn't even fully stop its momentum, never mind pick it up, that's why. If you want to suggest that Hulk can casually lift an oil tower, you need to actually provide a feat of him easily lifting and throwing something of similar size and mass, with one hand. [/B]

Just another showing of froth showing his ignorance.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
What? That was before his training. Are you denying he became more powerful after his training when it was flat out stated?

Come one dude, your better than that. Your not Quanchi.

If any power increase was stated for Hulk, you know you'd be the first to be pointing that out.

That's why I am asking you for the clip. I could be wrong, show it to me.

I'm also trying to figure out what training he went through. I remember him learning how to fly. What else happened? I am asking you questions, being objective. I'm not giving a certainty.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
He performed that feat on the fly in a bad situation while trying to protect the people. Why would he lift it and throw it when it was already buckling from the weight overhead and fish the whole thing jack knifing and blowing up killing everyone. Why didn't the hulk puch the leviathan up and away from his team and back into the worm hole instead of endangering them?

Was the alien in a position for Hulk to uppercut it? He punched it dead on, don't see anything wrong with that. He isn't a genius in Hulk form, he probably didn't think it would flip.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Just another showing of froth showing his ignorance.

Froth was on point actually.

Originally posted by carver9
Was the alien in a position for Hulk to uppercut it? He punched it dead on, don't see anything wrong with that. He isn't a genius in Hulk form, he probably didn't think it would flip.

Actually he was in position to uppercut it. Watch the movie.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
But he [B]didn't stop all of its momentum, or it would not have tried to flip over.

And lol at Carver suggesting that because Hulk punched the Leviathan, he could easily lift and throw an object that weighs hundreds (if not thousands) of tons with one hand. Then why, when he had a firm grip on it with both of his hands, didn't he just lift and toss the Leviathan when it was going to crash down on the Avengers? Because he couldn't even fully stop its momentum, never mind pick it up, that's why. If you want to suggest that Hulk can casually lift an oil tower, you need to actually provide a feat of him easily lifting and throwing something of similar size and mass, with one hand. [/B]

He halted it and the oil ridge isn't as big as the alien or as dense. Not saying that it wasn't heavy but the difference between the two is spot on.

Why would I need to provide proof of Hulk lifting something and throwing it away when he punched something bigger and halted it? I can lift a 15 pound wight with ease and I can toss it but punching it some distance is next to impossible, especially punching one that is coming at me with Ironman speed.

Originally posted by carver9
He halted it and the oil ridge isn't as big as the alien or as dense. Not saying that it wasn't heavy but the difference between the two is spot on.

Why would I need to provide proof of Hulk lifting something and throwing it away when he punched something bigger and halted it? I can lift a 15 pound wight with ease and I can toss it but punching it some distance is next to impossible, especially punching one that is coming at me with Ironman speed.

A static weight press i.e. Pressing and holding the oil tower is much more psychically exhaustive then a punch in which Hulk got pushed back 15 feet and then had to have Ironman clean up the mess at the end. Simple physics here carver.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Actually he was in position to uppercut it. Watch the movie.

Why would he uppercut it? That's like me asking, why didn't Superman move at super speed and rip the Oil ridge apart before it got the chance to land on anyone.

Originally posted by carver9
Why would he uppercut it? That's like me asking, why didn't Superman move at super speed and rip the Oil ridge apart before it got the chance to land on anyone.

Do you know what happens with you mix oil with fire carver?

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
But he [B]didn't stop all of its momentum, or it would not have tried to flip over.

And lol at Carver suggesting that because Hulk punched the Leviathan, he could easily lift and throw an object that weighs hundreds (if not thousands) of tons with one hand. Then why, when he had a firm grip on it with both of his hands, didn't he just lift and toss the Leviathan when it was going to crash down on the Avengers? Because he couldn't even fully stop its momentum, never mind pick it up, that's why. If you want to suggest that Hulk can casually lift an oil tower, you need to actually provide a feat of him easily lifting and throwing something of similar size and mass, with one hand. [/B]

I'm not suggesting anything about Hulk lifting an oil tower. Just think that it's not fair that people are lowballing Hulk's leviathan feat while at the same time praising Superman's oil rig.

That leviathan had enough momentum and mass to casually wreck buildings, and it didn't even have that much speed.

And momentum considers both mass and velocity, not just weight. Meaning it's harder to stop a speeding car than it is to lift that same car while it is stationary.

Hulk may not have stopped all it's momentum, but he certainly stopped it's forward momentum.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I'm not suggesting anything about Hulk lifting an oil tower. Just think that it's not fair that people are lowballing Hulk's leviathan feat while at the same time praising Superman's oil rig.

That leviathan had enough momentum and mass to casually wreck buildings, and it didn't even have that much speed.

And momentum considers both mass and velocity, not just weight. Meaning it's harder to stop a speeding car than it is to lift that same car while it is stationary.

Hulk may not have stopped all it's momentum, but he certainly stopped it's forward momentum.

Carver started low balling the oil rig scene. He opened the can of worms and you became a band wagon boy with him.

A static pressing lift is much harder then a punch. Next question.

Originally posted by carver9
Froth was on point actually.

He was off point, point is Clark performed a superior feat at his first test of strength in a weighted static angle press with the ground not being solid, and put himself in harms way to keep the workers and helicopter safe. Hulk showed up late on the scene after wrecking the helli carrier and putting everyone at risk and then did so again. If he was as strong as you and carver are claiming he could have ran towards the leviathan, and pushed it back or uppercutted it out of the way preventing anyone else from possibly being hurt.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Carver started low balling the oil rig scene. He opened the can of worms and you became a band wagon boy with him.

A static pressing lift is much harder then a punch. Next question.

It really depends on how much weight you're trying to lift vs. how much weight you're trying to stop with a punch.

For example, lifting a 20 pound barbell over your head is easier that trying to stop a 300 pound man from crashing into you by using a punch.

And what's with all this name calling? I point out a valid argument that you disagree with and you resort to name calling? How old are you anyway?