Pre Crisis Superman plants, sticks his chest out.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Late to the party, but have to agree with Bran. BM uses Anti Matter to amp his physicality levels. BM's anti matter does not have destructive properties. Do we see the anti matter punch destroy matter when his fists comes in contact with his opponent? No damage is seen accept for what would have been caused by a high herald level being punching his opponent.

When did I or anyone else make the claim that his antimatter punches destroy trans flesh! ? You can agree with him all you want, but just know you will be agreeing with his straw man argument.

All the challenge said was an antimatter CHARGED PUNCH. No one should expect it to look or behave any differently that it did against King Hyperion. The point is that four charged blows put him down when the uncharged blows didn't. This was NEVER meant to be a detailed debate about the effects and expectations of antimatter in two comic universes.

So let me ask you the only question that was asked, does a bracing PCS get hurt/affected by a BM charged punch if he makes it past Savage Hulk?

Originally posted by Delta1938
I've thought about that too. Clearly the spirit of the thread is for him to have antimatter added to his punch, but is there anything actually saying he can project or use antimatter offensively? I only read his mini, and could've missed something, but I don't recall anything like that. And I took him being a "stable antimatter reactor" from his bio to be it being more like an energy source FOR him to get his powers, not him projecting it.

So, ANYBODY have something from the comics about him projecting antimatter or anything like that?

Yes, he has used it many was such as to create shields for others, to amp his already Sentry KO level punches and to permanently amp Photon. After struggling with King Hyperion early in thier fight, he amped his punched (you could see the energy glow around his fists and nothing else) and he KOed Hype on four blows. CLEARLY the amped blows kicked trans ass.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
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Yes, he has used it many was such as to create shields for others, to amp his already Sentry KO level punches and to permanently amp Photon. After struggling with King Hyperion early in thier fight, he amped his punched (you could see the energy glow around his fists and nothing else) and he KOed Hype on four blows. CLEARLY the amped blows kicked trans ass and that's why it appears in the gauntlet.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
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Yes, he has used it many was such as to create shields for others, to amp his already Sentry KO level punches and to permanently amp Photon. After struggling with King Hyperion early in thier fight, he amped his punched (you could see the energy glow around his fists and nothing else) and he KOed Hype on four blows. CLEARLY the amped blows kicked trans ass.

And did they actually say it was antimatter, or could it just be energy produced from his "stable antimatter reactor" thingamijggy?

Originally posted by Delta1938
And did they actually say it was antimatter, or could it just be energy produced from his "stable antimatter reactor" thingamijggy?

What?? The thingamijiggy is his entire body and he produces and manipulates antimatter. What else would the glowing energy be?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
What?? The thingamijiggy is his entire body and he produces and manipulates antimatter. What else would the glowing energy be?

Energy produced when matter and antimatter collide.

Originally posted by cdtm
And then there's the time he practically killed by a single stroke from a magic axe in the 1980's Phantom Zone story. Or when stopped by a simple spell in Amethyst's world. Or was nearly blasted to atoms in that story where he was split into two Supermen, only surviving thanks to his super speed diluting the effect. Or when he was almost killed by Skeletor..

Originally posted by cdtm
Just want to comment on Cap's magic specifically:

Collector's edition 58 actually reinforces the magic weakness. Cap specifically thinks to exploit it with his magic lightning. He only abandoned the attack, because Shazam told him to continue fighting (For unspecified reasons, but likely because defeating Cap was the only way to snap him out of his altered mental state)

Cap was punked like a kid he is.

IOW preCrisis Superman was all over the place. So it could work, or it could tickle him.

So, with that said, stops at 2.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
IOW preCrisis Superman was all over the place. So it could work, or it could tickle him.

So, with that said, stops at 2.

Yes, he was all over the place. I don't know why some people don't simply acknowledge this fact.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Energy produced when matter and antimatter collide.

Right, and his fists aren't touching anything when they start glowing. It would make sense that he charges them with am so that when he makes contact through punching, energy on top of kinetic energy is released, making the punch even stronger.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet

Give it up son. You are obviously very young, I will never use the word "owned" but Bran and Operator made much better points than you did. You show promise, you're not stupid, just chill and sometimes take a step back read what others have written, think then reply or think would a response like, "you're right" or "I see what you mean" be better.

Originally posted by Kamahamaha
Give it up son. You are obviously very young, I will never use the word "owned" but Bran and Operator made much better points than you did. You show promise, you're not stupid, just chill and sometimes take a step back read what others have written, think then reply or think would a response like, "you're right" or "I see what you mean" be better.

Joined August 15th, huh? Herpes returns!! Maybe you should consider the negative effects of dic riding.

Kid, your unpleasant response to friendly advice on how to appear an adult online is duly noted. Have a nice day.

Originally posted by Kamahamaha
Kid, your unpleasant response to friendly advice on how to appear an adult online is duly noted. Have a nice day.

Go eat a nine inch bannana with two kiwis below it then take a dirt nap.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Right, and his fists aren't touching anything when they start glowing. It would make sense that he charges them with am so that when he makes contact through punching, energy on top of kinetic energy is released, making the punch even stronger.

That's not what I meant. AT ALL. But what this comes down to, is can you actually provide an issue reference where it says he uses antimatter offensively, or are you assuming that energy is antimatter?

Originally posted by Delta1938
That's not what I meant. AT ALL. But what this comes down to, is can you actually provide an issue reference where it says he uses antimatter offensively, or are you assuming that energy is antimatter?

No, but I can come up with countless statements that he is powered by, produces and manipulates antimatter. Given that, can you come up with a statement that the energy depicted is something other than antimatter?

PC Superman could achieve pretty much anything, overcome pretty much any obstacle, as long as he put his mind to it. This was an actual part of his powerset. He could for example become arbitrarily strong, fast, or durable just by willing it. If he is determined to not be moved then nothing in the world will move him.

PC Superman clears it.

Originally posted by Magnon
PC Superman could achieve pretty much anything, overcome pretty much any obstacle, as long as he put his mind to it. This was an actual part of his powerset. He could for example become arbitrarily strong, fast, or durable just by willing it. If he is determined to not be moved then nothing in the world will move him.

PC Superman clears it.

Really? So let me get this straight. When he was hurt by the antimatter missile, it only happened because he didn't really want it not to happen?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Really? So let me get this straight. When he was hurt by the antimatter missile, it only happened because he didn't really want it not to happen?

Something like that. PC Superman underestimated the power of the explosion and didn't summon enough durability to just shrug it off. Something similar happened vs. the Hulk at first, until Superman willed some more durability upon him so that the Hulk's punches became ineffective.

Heck, PC Superman could be pierced by a regular injection needle if he so wanted. His power level varied because he could assume more or less power at will.

Has vet responded to every post in this thread?

Forcing his lack of proof on people must be his fetish.

Anyway I'm glad like 30 other people are also wrong besides me. I didn't see OP, me, and Galan all being wrong here though. Shock to me. Vet must be the smartest guy on the forum, since there's no way he's wrong here and everyone else is. Also everyone is a DC fanboy.