Pre Crisis Superman plants, sticks his chest out.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Has vet responded to every post in this thread?

Forcing his lack of proof on people must be his fetish.

Anyway I'm glad like 30 other people are also wrong besides me. I didn't see OP, me, and Galan all being wrong here though. Shock to me. Vet must be the smartest guy on the forum, since there's no way he's wrong here and everyone else is. Also everyone is a DC fanboy.

Don't be a ***** and talk around me. Are you opting back in the debate, or are you running scared again? You bowed out when you couldn't answer the question why the antimatter didn't "evaporate" PCS. You are too scared to answer it, yet you are dicking around with the subject in other threads. Your head is currently fuked.

Originally posted by Magnon
Something like that. PC Superman underestimated the power of the explosion and didn't summon enough durability to just shrug it off. Something similar happened vs. the Hulk at first, until Superman willed some more durability upon him so that the Hulk's punches became ineffective.

Heck, PC Superman could be pierced by a regular injection needle if he so wanted. His power level varied because he could assume more or less power at will.

Okay, that's your take, and I can respect that to a point. Question: What makes that power any different than Gladiator and why in Gladiator's case is it viewed by some as a great weakness?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Don't be a ***** and talk around me. Are you opting back in the debate, or are you running scared again? You bowed out when you couldn't answer the question why the antimatter didn't "evaporate" PCS. You are too scared to answer it, yet you are dicking around with the subject in other threads. Your head is currently fuked.

But yes I'm taking you completely seriously and are currently in fear of a question already answered by me and others with reading comprehension. Go back and learn to understand words.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Okay, that's your take, and I can respect that to a point. Question: What makes that power any different than Gladiator and why in Gladiator's case is it viewed by some as a great weakness?

Look BAV, it's pretty obvious what has happened here to any observer, you are 15 or 16 no older I suspect and full of pride, you don't understand what Bran has alluded to and have got yourself all hormonally worked up. Calm it down, reread the thread; come back and chill.

It's just a comic forum. If I past you in the street I would not know who you are, you haven't lost face or respect as a person. Just chill.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Okay, that's your take, and I can respect that to a point. Question: What makes that power any different than Gladiator and why in Gladiator's case is it viewed by some as a great weakness?

Gladiator is Marvel's tribute to PC Superman, designed loosely in his image. He's a "poor man's" PC Superman, by necessity far less powerful than the original (otherwise he would be truly out of place in the MU).

In particular, Gladiator's confidence-dependent power level is a weaker imitation of the original's power; but it clearly shows that Marvel was well aware of this aspect of PC Superman's powerset when they were designing Glads. The subtle difference is that PC Superman could summon more power just by willing it whereas Glads needs to be confident in order to be powerful.

Originally posted by Magnon
Gladiator is Marvel's tribute to PC Superman, designed loosely in his image. He's a "poor man's" PC Superman, by necessity far less powerful than the original (otherwise he would be truly out of place in the MU).

In particular, Gladiator's confidence-dependent power level is a weaker imitation of the original's power; but it clearly shows that Marvel was well aware of this aspect of PC Superman's powerset when they were designing Glads. The subtle difference is that PC Superman could summon more power just by willing it whereas Glads needs to be confident in order to be powerful.

That's pretty silly IMO. Why exactly does "summoning" the power actually entail? I have to disagree with that point. Superman couldn't just summon it, he had to be confident as well. The proof is in the thought bubbles. For example, his thinking in the missile scan does not support the idea that he made a miscalculation in judgement in terms of how much power he had "summoned up." His thoughts are that the anitmatter had more of an affect on him than he thought and as a result he almost died. If he could simply and consciously call upon more power, wouldn't he have thought that he should have done that? I agree PCS's power was variable, but his control over the amount of power he held was very much a function of his psyche.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
We were never debating. In fact I outright stated a long time ago that you were too stupid and trollish to debate me. Stuck to it too. I was debating Stoic until he stopped responding though.

But yes I'm taking you completely seriously and are currently in fear of a question already answered by me and others with reading comprehension. Go back and learn to understand words.

You outright said that antimatter evaporates matter and therefore BM antimatter wasn't shit. Then you stuck you big head in the sand when the scans emerged and DC antimatter didn't evaporate "super matter." So no, you are still stuck on scare and you are a fool if you think I don't see it. If you weren't, you'd answer the question. And NO, you didn't answer the question. Stop crying about Stoic who isn't here. The question is right in your face again.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
That's pretty silly IMO. Why exactly does "summoning" the power actually entail? I have to disagree with that point. Superman couldn't just summon it, he had to be confident as well. The proof is in the thought bubbles. For example, his thinking in the missile scan does not support the idea that he made a miscalculation in judgement in terms of how much power he had "summoned up." His thoughts are that the anitmatter had more of an affect on him than he thought and as a result he almost died. If he could simply and consciously call upon more power, wouldn't he have thought that he should have done that? I agree PCS's power was variable, but his control over the amount of power he held was very much a function of his psyche.

Power Boost: It is an instantaneous boost and will be used when the challenge calls for it, all (Strength, Force Field, and Hyper Speed) at once, or one ability at a time. He would normally raise +1CS, then +2CS in the initial boost or he can boost immediately to Shift-Y (250) if he needs to. To activate an increase Superman must make an Endurance FEAT.

"Shift-Y" is TWO ranks higher than "Class 100", btw 😉

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Maybe the problem is that Bran's hand is a little too shaky to click on the link op provided. Let me help him out.

So yeah, a 5th grader can see that PC Superman gets fuced by relatively small amounts of antimatter.

If it's okay with everyone else, I'd like to name this scan Exhibit A, DC Antimatter not doing shit. Thank you kindly.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
[B] If it's okay with everyone else, I'd like to name this scan Exhibit A, DC Antimatter not doing shit. Thank you kindly. [/B]

You still don't get his point.....................

So one scan makes moot all the shit AM did?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Also everyone is a DC fanboy.

I LOLed at him calling you a DC fanboy. Or did he specify Superman fanboy? Either way-- 😆

Originally posted by Zack Fair
So one scan makes moot all the shit AM did?

The apples comparison is specifically what it is shown to do against PCS SUPERMAN AND KING HYPERION. It did not perform differently, both hurt their opponents without annihilating them. Anyone looking at the actual evidence and concluding that BMs antimatter is inferior is blind, stupid, biased or named Branlor.

Originally posted by Delta1938
I LOLed at him calling you a DC fanboy. Or did he specify Superman fanboy? Either way-- 😆

He caught the Super bug.

Originally posted by Magnon
Yes, Pre Crisis powers [B]were silly, better not try to analyze them too much 🙂 Still, Marvel actually tried to describe this power back in the old days within the context of their classic pen-and-paper RPG:

Power Boost: It is an instantaneous boost and will be used when the challenge calls for it, all (Strength, Force Field, and Hyper Speed) at once, or one ability at a time. He would normally raise +1CS, then +2CS in the initial boost or he can boost immediately to Shift-Y (250) if he needs to. To activate an increase Superman must make an Endurance FEAT.

"Shift-Y" is TWO ranks higher than "Class 100", btw 😉 [/B]

Yeah, RPG is not the same as comics. Comics drive RPG, not the other way around. You didn't respond to the points I raised, though. His power is not depicted as being "on tap." He has to believe in it to access it.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
The apples comparison is specifically what it is shown to do against PCS SUPERMAN AND KING HYPERION. It did not perform differently, both hurt their opponents without annihilating them. Anyone looking at the actual evidence and concluding that BMs antimatter is inferior is blind, stupid, biased or named Branlor.

You did do know that Branlor said antimatter must "evaporate" matter when he was dismissing BMs showing? And you do know he admitted he was wrong, right? It's all in this thread.

You know, it's funny. When PCS survives an attack, it's sold that "He tanked it." When King Hyperion does it, he's a weak ass fake Superman clone who was always overrated. Oh and killing all those alternate universe Hyperion wasn't impressive because they too were weak ass fake Superman clones. Oh, but when Sungod beats Hulk, he's the greatest thing since sliced bread.....since Superman.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
The apples comparison is specifically what it is shown to do against PCS SUPERMAN AND KING HYPERION. It did not perform differently, both hurt their opponents without annihilating them. Anyone looking at the actual evidence and concluding that BMs antimatter is inferior is blind, stupid, biased or named Branlor.

The question you haven't answered me is, do you have anything that Blue Marvel can actually use antimatter offensively? Or is it just an assumption?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
He caught the Super bug.

He's argued for Superman before, I'm sure he will again. But 😆 at him being a Superman/DC fanboy.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
You know, it's funny. When PCS survives an attack, it's sold that "He tanked it." When King Hyperion does it, he's a weak ass fake Superman clone who was always overrated. Oh and killing all those alternate universe Hyperion wasn't impressive because they too were weak ass fake Superman clones. Oh, but when Sungod beats Hulk, he's the greatest thing since sliced bread.....since Superman.

Originally posted by Delta1938
The question you haven't answered me is, do you have anything that Blue Marvel can actually use antimatter offensively? Or is it just an assumption?

He's argued for Superman before, I'm sure he will again. But 😆 at him being a Superman/DC fanboy.

I did answer you, but to prevent and unnecessary confusion, yes. He did it in that mini you claim you read.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
I did answer you, but to prevent and unnecessary confusion, yes. He did it in that mini you claim you read.

Blue Marvel's own limited series? Yep, I read it. If it stated he uses antimatter offensively, either I missed it or forgot. Issue reference? Tell me and I'll post the scans if they're there.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet

And the point of this is....?