Originally posted by Zack Fair
Why can't Supes and Hulk be friends? FKN internet man. Tried to google an image of them not trying to punch each other and found nothing.Even Superman and Goku have friendly fanarts =[
Lol...they are friends. Pre Crisis Superman would annihilate Hulk. Just pointed out a non canon comic and even added a smiley after it and you all got all upset.
Originally posted by carver9It wasn't cause of you lol. Just google. Can't believe there ain't a single buddy image of the two. Its either Hulk smashing him or Superman decapitating Hulk. Sick bastards.
Lol...they are friends. Pre Crisis Superman would annihilate Hulk. Just pointed out a non canon comic and even added a smiley after it and you all got all upset.
Originally posted by carver9
That wasn't all that was said or done. Read it.
I own the comic and Superman took everything Hulk dished out after this scene and found out what annoyed Hulk and slapped it out of Hulks ear. You are talking about things that happened before this scene, a suckerpunch that "ANNOYED" Superman nothing more.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
I own the comic and Superman took everything Hulk dished out after this scene and found out what annoyed Hulk and slapped it out of Hulks ear. You are talking about things that happened before this scene, a suckerpunch that "ANNOYED" Superman nothing more.
Superman was most def flash koed before this. Posted this a thousand times on the forum proving it. Hulk didn't harm him afterwards though but eventually he would've.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
It wasn't cause of you lol. Just google. Can't believe there ain't a single buddy image of the two. Its either Hulk smashing him or Superman decapitating Hulk. Sick bastards.
Sure, it's in front of your nose. Carvers Sig, they are having butt-sex and Hulk is enjoying it. Can't be more love than this, though kind of gay if you ask me.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Why should we take that into consideration? The guy powered himself up with AM and hit King Hype super hard. Had that been a "shockwave" writer he would have killed them with just his punches. Just because he wasn't using city sized anti matter that doesn't mean his anti matter was holding back.But that's the thing, he doesn't have to be as powerful as AM. He just has to hit people with it. He won't go around destroying universes but anything he can hit should be evaporated. Including any DC being if we're to make the connection.
I was unaware Savage Hulk level was weak. And I was unaware he showed above that power.
I'm using what he's shown, not what he hasn't. I'm assuming he's on the level he is not what he could be. Whether in the next year he goes around disintegrating universes that is irrelevant to the moment. He has more than enough feats to judge him as is, and that's what I prefer to do.And with that all said, his anti matter ain't shit. Talking about potential won't change that.
And here's the kicker, but what if I turn out to be correct in the future? Should I assume that's a possibility just as much as your "wait and see how totes tough he is" attitude? It works both ways.
We should take it into consideration, because at times it takes many years to fully flesh out a character. Look at the Sentry for example; the writers don't seem to know how to make heads or tails of this guy. If you're upset at the placing of the gauntlet take it up with the OP. Savage Hulk does not have the same power set as Blue Marvel, nor was it ever stated that PC Superman was weak to gamma radiation unless I somehow missed it. PC Superman on the other hand was stated to be vulnerable to anti matter energy, which is what I am saying. So what I am saying is that I don't see any reason why he would not be lit up by by Adam's antimatter powers, if directed into a punch.
You comparing King Hyperion to PC Superman is also an error, because they aren't the same character, or is King Hyperion weakened by Kryptonite as well? The same can be said that he may not be vulnerable to antimatter.
Now here's the kicker, what if you are incorrect in the future? It would be relevant to this, because they simply did not have enough time to showcase the full limits of his powers, and this is something that takes time. Since when was an energy blast/hit capable of destroying a universe needed to light up PC Superman? I never said anything about that, just that Adam should be able to light him up. Never said anything about killing him, or melting universes.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
I own the comic and Superman took everything Hulk dished out after this scene and found out what annoyed Hulk and slapped it out of Hulks ear. You are talking about things that happened before this scene, a suckerpunch that "ANNOYED" Superman nothing more.
I thought he was referring to Superman's thought bubble where he was commenting on Hulks strenght increasing.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
I thought he was referring to Superman's thought bubble where he was commenting on Hulks strenght increasing.
No he referred to the scene after Superman beat Hulk who was trapped under some stuff, he went there to help Hulk and free him, but dumb Hulk pretended to be ko and suckerpunched Superman and send him flying. He came back, said to Spiderman, who asked how he could survive this punch or something like this, that it only annyoed him and tanked everything Hulk could dish out with ease. You know PC days.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
No he referred to the scene after Superman beat Hulk who was trapped under some stuff, he went there to help Hulk and free him, but dumb Hulk pretended to be ko and suckerpunched Superman and send him flying. He came back, said to Spiderman, who asked how he could survive this punch or something like this, that it only annyoed him and tanked everything Hulk could dish out with ease. You know PC days.
It said Superman body went limp after the punch. Superman didn't show back up until a lot of panels later when Hulk was on the verge of nearly destroying the city. Reread the book you suppose to have.
Originally posted by Stoic
We should take it into consideration, because at times it takes many years to fully flesh out a character. Look at the Sentry for example; the writers don't seem to know how to make heads or tails of this guy. If you're upset at the placing of the gauntlet take it up with the OP. Savage Hulk does not have the same power set as Blue Marvel, nor was it ever stated that PC Superman was weak to gamma radiation unless I somehow missed it. PC Superman on the other hand was stated to be vulnerable to anti matter energy, which is what I am saying. So what I am saying is that I don't see any reason why he would not be lit up by by Adam's antimatter powers, if directed into a punch.You comparing King Hyperion to PC Superman is also an error, because they aren't the same character, or is King Hyperion weakened by Kryptonite as well? The same can be said that he may not be vulnerable to antimatter.
Now here's the kicker, what if you are incorrect in the future? It would be relevant to this, because they simply did not have enough time to showcase the full limits of his powers, and this is something that takes time. Since when was an energy blast/hit capable of destroying a universe needed to light up PC Superman? I never said anything about that, just that Adam should be able to light him up. Never said anything about killing him, or melting universes.
I am FAR from a PCS expert, but even my ass knows he wasn't always depicted as totally invulnerable to forces other than specific weaknesses. All you Superfans know that as well, you are just perpetuating at the moment. And yes Stoic, that's why I placed it above Hulks punch on the Gauntlet.
Originally posted by carver9
It said Superman body went limp after the punch. Superman didn't show back up until a lot of panels later when Hulk was on the verge of nearly destroying the city. Reread the book you suppose to have.
McAbe, response? I don't know, I don't have the book. If true, it is partially significant. It shows Hulk has the power to hurt PC with a punch, albeit one that is not bracing himself as is the scenario here.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
I am FAR from a PCS expert, but even my ass knows he wasn't always depicted as totally invulnerable to forces other than specific weaknesses. All you Superfans know that as well, you are just perpetuating at the moment. And yes Stoic, that's why I placed it above Hulks punch on the Gauntlet.
Yes I realized that was the reason why you placed him above the Savage Hulk in this gauntlet. And yes i believe that a hit from Adam would effect PC Superman, because he was vulnerable to antimatter. One should translate into another, unless DC antimatter is different than Marvel's antimatter. Since that was never stated, i am guessing that at the very least, Superman should be somewhat fazed by it.
Originally posted by Stoic
Yes I realized that was the reason why you placed him above the Savage Hulk in this gauntlet. And yes i believe that a hit from Adam would effect PC Superman, because he was vulnerable to antimatter. One should translate into another, unless DC antimatter is different than Marvel's antimatter. Since that was never stated, i am guessing that at the very least, Superman should be somewhat fazed by it.
The two universes have differences, but if we are to assume that known properties common to both universes operate differently on a fundamental level, we might as well never post any Marvel DC matches.
Originally posted by StoicAnd Sentry started off fighting whole groups of heroes. Blue Marvel did... ?
We should take it into consideration, because at times it takes many years to fully flesh out a character. Look at the Sentry for example; the writers don't seem to know how to make heads or tails of this guy. If you're upset at the placing of the gauntlet take it up with the OP. Savage Hulk does not have the same power set as Blue Marvel, nor was it ever stated that PC Superman was weak to gamma radiation unless I somehow missed it. PC Superman on the other hand was stated to be vulnerable to anti matter energy, which is what I am saying. So what I am saying is that I don't see any reason why he would not be lit up by by Adam's antimatter powers, if directed into a punch.You comparing King Hyperion to PC Superman is also an error, because they aren't the same character, or is King Hyperion weakened by Kryptonite as well? The same can be said that he may not be vulnerable to antimatter.
Now here's the kicker, what if you are incorrect in the future? It would be relevant to this, because they simply did not have enough time to showcase the full limits of his powers, and this is something that takes time. Since when was an energy blast/hit capable of destroying a universe needed to light up PC Superman? I never said anything about that, just that Adam should be able to light him up. Never said anything about killing him, or melting universes.
What? I'm not talking about the gauntlet. I'm saying that Blue Marvel doesn't hit harder than Hulk and thus shouldn't effect him. I don't care about the placement.
What?
The issue with that is EVERY being outside a select few was vulnerable to anti matter. It wasn't because it was a weakness, it was because it obliterates matter. Which King Hyperion was. Only durability and select abilities protected people. There's actually an event about it funnily enough.
But if BM's AM was the same as AM's AM then Hyperion wouldn't have a head. Unless Hyperion is more durable than the entirety of DC.
I fully realize I can be wrong in the future. Never denied it. Which is why I'm actually relying on existing evidence to form my conclusion. You know, if BM stays at the same level of power and doesn't get an outrageous bump in power from what he's shown?
With that said, acting like he can only get more powerful is worse to believe than if he stays the same. You can't play future cards against me when it's easily as applicable to you.
I never said universal blasts were needed to harm Superman. I said that BM should be able to kill almost any DC opponent due to his power. And AM wasn't devastating because of its size. A universal sized AM wave is going to be just as devastating to Superman as a bear sized blast of AM. Which is my point. AM no matter the size is /was lethal. Whether AM drops a house sized blast or a universal sized blast on a Wonder Woman it's still going to have the same potency. Which SHOULD be true of BM too. If he's firing off human sized waves following COIE he should be disintegrating human sized holes in pretty much anything. But he's not. Is he now?
Assuming the potency of BM's power based off COIE and say Galactus isn't going to work when all his shit has shown is that it's basically an energy attack. He ain't done shit to make me believe he seriously effects Superman with it. Ain't shit.
But if you'd like you can show me otherwise with BM scans. 🙂
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
And Sentry started off fighting whole groups of heroes. Blue Marvel did... ?
Sentry from the very start was supposed to be the most powerful hero. Blue Marvel from the very start was supposed to be a Thor level being. Difference.What? I'm not talking about the gauntlet. I'm saying that Blue Marvel doesn't hit harder than Hulk and thus shouldn't effect him. I don't care about the placement.
What?
The issue with that is EVERY being outside a select few was vulnerable to anti matter. It wasn't because it was a weakness, it was because it obliterates matter. Which King Hyperion was. Only durability and select abilities protected people. There's actually an event about it funnily enough.
But if BM's AM was the same as AM's AM then Hyperion wouldn't have a head. Unless Hyperion is more durable than the entirety of DC.I fully realize I can be wrong in the future. Never denied it. Which is why I'm actually relying on existing evidence to form my conclusion. You know, if BM stays at the same level of power and doesn't get an outrageous bump in power from what he's shown?
With that said, acting like he can only get more powerful is worse to believe than if he stays the same. You can't play future cards against me when it's easily as applicable to you.I never said universal blasts were needed to harm Superman. I said that BM should be able to kill almost any DC opponent due to his power. And AM wasn't devastating because of its size. A universal sized AM wave is going to be just as devastating to Superman as a bear sized blast of AM. Which is my point. AM no matter the size is /was lethal. Whether AM drops a house sized blast or a universal sized blast on a Wonder Woman it's still going to have the same potency. Which SHOULD be true of BM too. If he's firing off human sized waves following COIE he should be disintegrating human sized holes in pretty much anything. But he's not. Is he now?
Assuming the potency of BM's power based off COIE and say Galactus isn't going to work when all his shit has shown is that it's basically an energy attack. He ain't done shit to make me believe he seriously effects Superman with it. Ain't shit.
But if you'd like you can show me otherwise with BM scans. 🙂
A Thor level hero? Dude, he beat Pagan, Antiman and King Hyperion, straight up in his short existence What do you think the point of those victories were? He also acquitted himself very well while distracted against Sentry, removing him from the battlefield. Hell, he's the Watchers son's godfather! I love these conclusions you arrive at with you as the source.
Originally posted by Blue Area VetSo... Thor level?
A Thor level hero? Dude, he beat Pagan, Antiman and King Hyperion, straight up in his short existence What do you think the point of those victories were? He also acquitted himself very well while distracted against Sentry, removing him from the battlefield. Hell, he's the Watchers son's godfather! I love these conclusions you arrive at with you as the source.
Though you can bump a Thor vs BM thread and see what the Thor fans make of it.