Sentry vs Ghost Rider

Originally posted by CadenceV2
I agree Yahweh is sky father at best. However the Recent Ghost Rider took on the entire Avenegers, and did not lose. This included Man Thing (Hell Lord level) Doctor Strange, Wanda (same chick who help beat Phoenix) and Thor himself (he is near Skyfather alone!) proving Ghost Rider Spirits, and by extension Yaweh is Odin level at the least IMO.

I wouldn't say Thor is near Skyfather. He's a High Herald at best. Unless you're talking about King Thor. Plus that fight wasn't really conclusive, nobody was bloodied. The most damage anyone suffered in that comic was when Thor smashed Wolverines head through a ceiling in a drinking contest.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
I wouldn't say Thor is near Skyfather. He's a High Herald at best. Unless you're talking about King Thor. Plus that fight wasn't really conclusive, nobody was bloodied. The most damage anyone suffered in that comic was when Thor smashed Wolverines head through a ceiling in a drinking contest.

He's obviously not a skyfather, but I can't imagine what else he'd be other than high herald.

Him, together with Surfer and Superman are basically the foundation for the High Herald rank.

Originally posted by krisblaze
High herald at best?

He's obviously not a skyfather, but I can't imagine what else he'd be other than high herald.

Him, together with Surfer and Superman are basically the foundation for the High Herald rank.

Perhaps I phrased it incorrectly. I meant he isn't Skyfather but he is a High Herald, didn't mean he was weak and HH was his max. Apologies for the misunderstanding.

I agree with what you said about Surfer, Thor and Supes.

What constitutes a win in this thread?

Do we assume that they can come back an infinite number of times?

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Perhaps I phrased it incorrectly. I meant he isn't Skyfather but he is a High Herald, didn't mean he was weak and HH was his max. Apologies for the misunderstanding.

I agree with what you said about Surfer, Thor and Supes.

Yes they can comeback as many times as they can. I always assume this was a stalemate when I thought of it. I am sure the PS could work, but to pull it off would require holding Sentry in place which is easier said then done. The Hell fire that burns the soul may be a game changer.

Originally posted by CadenceV2
Yes they can comeback as many times as they can. I always assume this was a stalemate when I thought of it. I am sure the PS could work, but to pull it off would require holding Sentry in place which is easier said then done. The Hell fire that burns the soul may be a game changer.

The problem is with Sentry it works in a weird way. He has as you know reformed from anytime he has been destroyed. Even from complete destruction (via Molecule Man). So essentially Zarathos can't win via dispersing his body over a wide area as without his own discretion Robert can't die. And the hell fire may or may not work who knows. Like I said in my first message. A very tough fight here.

Neither am I sure about a penance stare. Sentry has a remarkable control over his mind (note I mean in terms of people trying to access his thoughts). If you remember the incidents with Dr Strange or the time he controlled how much Absorbing Man could see of his mind. Now that he isn't afraid of utilising his power it makes this much harder.

Originally posted by CadenceV2
I understand where your coming from, and when I get home I will post the whe fight so you can see for yourself 🙂

I have no problem admitting it failed on Eddie Venom to a degree, and it flat out failed for no reason at all on Punisher and Flash Venom in Thunderbolts (which in itself is obvious as WIS on the character), but it did not fail on Deadpool or Punisher (first encounter) as many seem to say.

So in short my philosophy is scans or I never happen, in which case I will prove my point on it.