Goku Versus Usagi (Sailor Moon)

How many confirmed calcs have you ever seen using calc stacking? If you've hovered on forums enough, and I know you have, you'd know that stacking is treated like a taboo and can shut the calc down instantly. This is calc stacking.

Not in the manga. And no that's ridiculous. No one would ever claim that a distance isn't far when it's the farthest reachable point possible at the time.

Now think about it. At full speed it takes him an hour to cover gaps on the planet. Not half or quarter of the planet, just a gap. Knowing this, just how far do you think he could have gotten before Goku got up, which Vegeta says will take 40-50 mins? This tells us that the fight area could only be on the opposite side if they were flying away at max speed for the entire time, ie ignoring the whole wishing and fight.
Sorry, not even that because Freiza and Nail were flying away from Guru's hpuse, meaning of we assume their fight was opposite, then Guru would be a lot closer than the opposite.
Even less as they were with Dende flying solo.
And even all that is pointless to the facts;
The place they all met was really close. Krillen, Gohan and Dende sneak away from the ship using minimum ki.. You think a min ki Dende could cover the entire planet in a few minutes when a max ki Krillen takes an hour to cover a fraction of the planet?
-Hell, there's a clear scan of where they are and it's only 3 small islands away from the ship...

Link away, because I'm looking at it right now. This is exactly what happens: Frieza knocks Vegeta down and stands over him > cut to Goku getting up and zipping over > cut to the field and all we see is Frieza with a cocked arm > everyone looks at Goku.

At no point do we see him throw a punch, then see Goku move, and then see the arm cover part of the punch distance.

The feat never happens.

I'm yet to see light speed from Sailor Moon.

Originally posted by atv2
Pluto during the events of S(maybe even R) was stronger than Sailormoon. However she was killed by a chopper. Nappa was running through Jets like wrapping paper and Goku was able to defeat him.

I notice you man. They ignore you because you used feats that say ALOT, but they prefer to just argue about stupid scaling and calc because their jerks who hate DBZ or wank to it.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
I'm yet to see light speed from Sailor Moon.

Originally posted by NemeBro
http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=14992

Excellent.

Could be argued traveling speed vs combat speed, but I'm not that guy.

There's an old clip I saw of Sailor Moon fighting Sailor Galaxia across the entire galaxy but I can't find it anymore.

Originally posted by NemeBro
http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=14992

Tbh, there's no real indication that one panel = one second.

It could have been much longer, or even shorter.

That entire calc is moot.

It could have been a week and they would still be massively FTL.

Sailor Moon in Space IS faster than Light Gogeta, (the panel proves it) which is actually quite plausible considering space is empty and only has minor gravity influences from stars etc. But she's always running around on earth and never show any real SUPER SPEED feats except with their magic wings and such while they hurtle through space. On earth in typical conflicts they just run around at very human speeds in the middle of the night while their parents don't even care where they are.

My conclusion: Sailor Moon can travel astronomical distances in the blink of an eye but their is no evidence to support that her mind works just as fast like when Vegeta sees Frieza's death beam and no one else could.

While technically Serena has greater speed, Goku will be the only one of the two to use super speed effectively as time will actually slow down relative to him. Serena will just feel like she's going really fast.

However I only saw the early series and that panel up above, I'm open to more feats.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
However I only saw the early series

Originally posted by NemeBro
It could have been a week and they would still be massively FTL.

And it still wouldn't be Goku's speed.

SSJ1 is faster than Sailor Moon, even with that high-ball. SSJ1 is a 50X boost on base, making SSJ1 Goku 3,535,000,000,000 times FTL, or 3 Trillion, 535 Billion times faster than light. In other words, SSJ1 Goku in the Buu saga, even high-balling that one panel to one second, would be over 43 times faster than Sailor moon, and that's without even calcing the lack of resistance due to lack of gravity, as well as friction and other factors that make things faster in outer space.

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Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Sailor Moon in Space IS faster than Light Gogeta, (the panel proves it) which is actually quite plausible considering space is empty and only has minor gravity influences from stars etc. But she's always running around on earth and never show any real SUPER SPEED feats except with their magic wings and such while they hurtle through space. On earth in typical conflicts they just run around at very human speeds in the middle of the night while their parents don't even care where they are.

My conclusion: Sailor Moon can travel astronomical distances in the blink of an eye but their is no evidence to support that her mind works just as fast like when Vegeta sees Frieza's death beam and no one else could.

While technically Serena has greater speed, Goku will be the only one of the two to use super speed effectively as time will actually slow down relative to him. Serena will just feel like she's going really fast.

However I only saw the early series and that panel up above, I'm open to more feats.

Refer to my above post.

Apparently everyone has forgotten that Goku has four transformations that collectively make him literal MILLIONS of times stronger than he normally is.

Again, SSJ1, a 50X boost to base, makes him over 43 times faster than even that high-balled calc makes Usagi. Clearly SSJ1 is overkill. He could beat and blitz her with Kaioken X8 and above. Not that it's needed, because he can stay in SSJ1 for months at a time.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Then your entire post is worthless.

Is anything I said in the post inaccurate? No? Then shut up pawn.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Refer to my above post.

Apparently everyone has forgotten that Goku has four transformations that collectively make him literal MILLIONS of times stronger than he normally is.

Again, SSJ1, a 50X boost to base, makes him over 43 times faster than even that high-balled calc makes Usagi. Clearly SSJ1 is overkill. He could beat and blitz her with Kaioken X8 and above. Not that it's needed, because he can stay in SSJ1 for months at a time.

Akira never whooped out a calculator and made these calculations, you did. You can't prove anything with calculations because its a cartoon. As far as power scaling goes, the only valid form is say: Kid Buu can beat Frieza because he fought on par with SSJ3 Goku. That is the most evidence scaling can give us. It can't be used to calculate their max stats.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Akira never whooped out a calculator and made these calculations, you did. You can't prove anything with calculations because its a cartoon. As far as power scaling goes, the only valid form is say: Kid Buu can beat Frieza because he fought on par with SSJ3 Goku. That is the most evidence scaling can give us. It can't be used to calculate their max stats.

lol, Akira didn't need to. He probably figured that it would be common sense with the numbers he DID give. HE said Roshi and Krillin had a fight in one fifth of a second. Not me. 👆

How stupid are you? That's not power scaling, that's simple fact.

Power scaling DOES work. This isn't Bleach. Akira made it so that if someone was stronger that someone else, they were stronger. It's that simple.

Pussy-footing around the matter does nothing for you, other than prove how in-denial you are.

I just did use it for that. Get back to my calc and come up with a response other than, "no, you".

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
lol, Akira didn't need to. He probably figured that it would be common sense with the numbers he DID give. HE said Roshi and Krillin had a fight in one fifth of a second. Not me. 👆

How stupid are you? That's not power scaling, that's simple fact.

Power scaling DOES work. This isn't Bleach. Akira made it so that if someone was stronger that someone else, they were stronger. It's that simple.

Pussy-footing around the matter does nothing for you, other than prove how in-denial you are.

I just did use it for that. Get back to my calc and come up with a response other than, "no, you".

See the Krillin Roshi fight. A feat we can go by. From that we can deduce that everyone above those two can do it too and even better. If we used that and started calculating then shit never gets done and the superman fans descend and lowball feats then calculate them. I agree we can power scale and use common sense but lets no actually calculate. People get pissy around maths.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
See the Krillin Roshi fight. A feat we can go by. From that we can deduce that everyone above those two can do it too and even better. If we used that and started calculating then shit never gets done and the superman fans descend and lowball feats then calculate them. I agree we can power scale and use common sense but lets no actually calculate. People get pissy around maths.

What does that have to do with anything?

Yes, anyone above Roshi and Krillin can do it better, but the simple fact that we have power levels for them, and some people are too stupid to understand multiplication, means absolutely nothing.

In case you haven't been paying attention, I've already low-balled the feats as much as possible. I've done so, because no one can say I'm being unfair and giving DBZ characters feats they don't have.

All my numbers are accurate. And true. I don't care who gets upset over that, Superman would get stomped by 90% of fiction. Including Sailor Moon, who Goku would stomp. Perfect example of the powerscaling is how hard Goku would yanks Superman's dick off for talking shit.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
It took Goku 177 days to run Snake way not 24 hours...

When flying and avoid most of it he did it in a day, but again its significantly less than half the true distance.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
What does that have to do with anything?

Yes, anyone above Roshi and Krillin can do it better, but the simple fact that we have power levels for them, and some people are too stupid to understand multiplication, means absolutely nothing.

In case you haven't been paying attention, I've already low-balled the feats as much as possible. I've done so, because no one can say I'm being unfair and giving DBZ characters feats they don't have.

All my numbers are accurate. And true. I don't care who gets upset over that, Superman would get stomped by 90% of fiction. Including Sailor Moon, who Goku would stomp. Perfect example of the powerscaling is how hard Goku would yanks Superman's dick off for talking shit.

I was being nice, let me put it this way: Your calculations don't mean shit and you're the reason so many people hate DBZ on the internet.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
I was being nice, let me put it this way: Your calculations don't mean shit and you're the reason so many people hate DBZ on the internet.

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So was I, let me put it THIS way: You're not smart enough to disprove any of my calcs, so you're trying to take the easy way out. There is none though. You can say that all you want, but it doesn't make it true.