OWAW Superman and HP DD vs. Thanos and PG Thor

Started by Philosophía9 pages

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
What I gathered from this fight is that Thor (prior to getting the gem) one shotting Drax with the PG is to be used against him... somehow.
Yeah, good thing the other side isn't saying power gem Thor is invincible, and applying no-limits fallacy to him. Right?

But then again, Swift Faglord always has his customized Thanos & Thor goggles on, doesn't he?

uhuh

Originally posted by JBL
Thanos and Thor in a rape.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Yeah, good thing the other side isn't saying power gem Thor is invincible, and applying no-limits fallacy to him. Right?

But then again, Swift Faglord always has his customized Thanos & Thor goggles on, doesn't he?

uhuh

Replying with using Drax isn't the way to about it. The Thanos fight is proof enough. Drax is ultimately meaningless though.

Unfortunately I don't have ulterior motives like the angriest girl on the site. Lol at Thor goggles though. You must still be butt hurt about that thread. I think it's been 3 months, you might as well bump the thread with your "clearing up the World Engine" feat.

Also lol at you accusing of bias in a Superman thread.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Replying with using Drax isn't the way to about it. The Thanos fight is proof enough. Drax is ultimately meaningless though.
Yes. Tell me, why did you attack the retort, instead of the source statement - that Thor is invincible with the power gem?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Unfortunately I don't have ulterior motives
😂

Oh, Bran. Are you seriously denying that you're a Thanos/Thor fanboy?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
You must still be butt hurt about that thread. I think it's been 3 months, you might as well bump the thread with your "clearing up the World Engine" feat.
I've been searching for a battlezone with one of the overzealous Thanos fanboys for over a week now, feel free to oblige me..

Challenge:
The World Engine feat - it doesn't prove Thor has the strength to destroy a planet by punching it from a standing position.

Btw, a few other challenges like:
CIS off Superman vs Thanos
OWAW Superman vs Thanos [relevant, here]
... are still up.

Are you game for any of them?

Because Drax being relevant to Thor with the PG and Drax getting KOed by Thor diminishing Thor's use is a lot dumber. It's a duh moment here.

Never said I wasn't a fanboy. I'm just saying I don't go around with ulterior motives every thread like some people.

Lol battle zones. Even if the thought appealed I don't have a decent time frame to do it. Plus the guy challenging shouldn't run and hide for a month or so after he debates the challenged in non time frame threads. It'd carry more weight on the "coward" implication anyway.
Plus even if I did I'd just drop 10 posts at the beginning and go from there. That'd be fun for everyone. But empty "threats" and all.

Again though lol at the World Engine part. It seems you switched it slightly since you thought you could "myth bust" it.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Because Drax being relevant to Thor with the PG and Drax getting KOed by Thor diminishing Thor's use is a lot dumber. It's a duh moment here.

Never said I wasn't a fanboy. I'm just saying I don't go around with ulterior motives every thread like some people.

Lol battle zones. Even if the thought appealed I don't have a decent time frame to do it. Plus the guy challenging shouldn't run and hide for a month or so after he debates the challenged in non time frame threads. It'd carry more weight on the "coward" implication anyway.
Plus even if I did I'd just drop 10 posts at the beginning and go from there. That'd be fun for everyone. But empty "threats" and all.

Again though lol at the World Engine part. It seems you switched it slightly since you thought you could "myth bust" it.

It wasn't about dimishing Thors use, it was about this statement.

Originally posted by Stoic
Power gem Thor is invincible. Neither on team one is beating him. Thor would just keep getting more powerful as time went on.

Which implies that a PG user is invincible.

Originally posted by Stoic
Power gem Thor is invincible. Neither on team one is beating him. Thor would just keep getting more powerful as time went on.
how is he invincible when he doesn't tap into the gem very effectively? Look at Thor's showings against drax, surfer, etc before the gem. And then look after he obtained the gem. Surely you won't see more than a 2x increase in power. You are applying a no limits fallacy here.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
It wasn't about dimishing Thors use, it was about this statement.

Which implies that a PG user is invincible.

Which is limited to Thor, and is pure hyperbole.

Me not answering hyperbole is stupid as hell. Guess you can't correct things if you don't answer everything.

"But it was in response to this"

Don't care. Doesn't lessen the stupidity of it. And at the end of the day all you're doing is indirectly furthering that claim by showing pre amped Thor one shotting Drax. Thor one shotting Drax only makes Thor look good, not the opposite.

If I really need to ****ing explain it because my statement is controversial and Phildo is having fits about it.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Time doesn't matter though.

And as far as the Infinity Watch goes they all all had powers that were mildly similar to the gems they carried (aside from pip I guess) which meant that they amplified their natural abilities but kept them from truly delving into the gem's true power.

Thor's madness at the time made him a much more potent user of the PG. And as far as I remember Drax wasn't really KO'd until he lost the gem.

Either way I agree with the assessment that Thor with the PG can be beat, I do, however, disagree with HI's idea that HP DD will somehow kill him in 1-2 hits.

DD was shattering probes like they were made of tissue paper to me. The same probes that Superman, before letting loose, couldn't really damage significantly using all of his might while fighting one for a long period of time.

1-2 times is an estimate. Giving Thor the benefit of the doubt let's say 1-4 times.

@Bran You don't care? Then stop complaining.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
@Bran You don't care? Then stop complaining.
Forgot who I was talking to. My mistake, carry on.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Forgot who I was talking to. My mistake, carry on.
Originally posted by JBL
Thanos and Thor in a rape.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Yeah WM is a dumb as rocks character. Gotcha!

Ok, I loled sneer

Thor still didn't use it very well and far below being invincble or amped enough to oneshot or kill a Trans.

Thor took on the whole Watch with Sif and he koed Drax who had the gem and spit it out.
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Soujaboy/media/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity6.jpg.html


Drax was down, but not fully out. Still impressive as hell temporarily putting down a herald with the power gem(albeit dumb herald).

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Which is limited to Thor, and is pure hyperbole.

Me not answering hyperbole is stupid as hell. Guess you can't correct things if you don't answer everything.

"But it was in response to this"

Don't care. Doesn't lessen the stupidity of it. And at the end of the day all you're doing is indirectly furthering that claim by showing pre amped Thor one shotting Drax. Thor one shotting Drax only makes Thor look good, not the opposite.

If I really need to ****ing explain it because my statement is controversial and Phildo is having fits about it.

yes koing Drax with the PG does make Thor look good. But what you don't see is that this perfectly counters Stoic statement that the PG makes (any user) invincible. If drax was invincible then Thor wouldn't have been able to phase or ko him. That's what they are referring to. You didn't understand this, so you some get slack. But it is a little bit fishy that you made no comment to "the invincible comment" when you were attacking the retort, knowing that stoic was been 100% literal.

I'm pretty sure if Juggs was claimed to be invincible, you would be jumping down their throats with examples of him getting affected. Oh wait...

Someone quote me so that Bran can see this lol

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Drax was down, but not fully out. Still impressive as hell temporarily putting down a herald with the power gem(albeit dumb herald).
but stoic claimed invincibility to any user, yet no Thor fan stopped to correct him. They just automatically thought we were dogging Thor when we pointed out the error..

Anyways, Thor, without the gem, hit Surfer and BRB, etc. so it seems Drax with the pg had the same durability as the others. Hence, he wasn't really accessing it very well.

Originally posted by h1a8
yes koing Drax with the PG does make Thor look good. But what you don't see is that this perfectly counters Stoic statement that the PG makes (any user) invincible. If drax was invincible then Thor wouldn't have been able to phase or ko him. That's what they are referring to. You didn't understand this, so you some get slack. But it is a little bit fishy that you made no comment to "the invincible comment" when you were attacking the retort, knowing that stoic was been 100% literal.

I'm pretty sure if Juggs was claimed to be invincible, you would be jumping down their throats with examples of him getting affected. Oh wait...

Someone quote me so that Bran can see this lol

👆

Originally posted by h1a8
yes koing Drax with the PG does make Thor look good. But what you don't see is that this perfectly counters Stoic statement that the PG makes (any user) invincible. If drax was invincible then Thor wouldn't have been able to phase or ko him. That's what they are referring to. You didn't understand this, so you some get slack. But it is a little bit fishy that you made no comment to "the invincible comment" when you were attacking the retort, knowing that stoic was been 100% literal.

I'm pretty sure if Juggs was claimed to be invincible, you would be jumping down their throats with examples of him getting affected. Oh wait...

Someone quote me so that Bran can see this lol

Juggs has been effected in a way ie it put him down for agood time/out if a fight. Nothing was or did that to PG Thor That made him unable to continue fighting except Thanos force block.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Team 1. They're operating at a level where they're one-shotting trans-level characters, consistently, for days - something Thanos and WM Thor aren't capable of.

That, and Doomsday [Hunter & Prey/ DD Wars/ OWAW] is one of the few villains in comics whose actual combat performance dwarfs Thanos [in fact, he has straight-up slaughtered Thanos' superior - Darkseid].

problem is clownshoes, supes never one shot trans level characters... probes ranged in level n the upper upper end MIGHT be low trans. Not thanos level.

Thanos beats ds as well, n honestly, it wouldnt be too tough.