Originally posted by Insane TitanSo if a character hasn't been put down then that means nothing in the universe can put them down? This is the classic no limits fallacy.
Juggs has been effected in a way ie it put him down for agood time/out if a fight. Nothing was or did that to PG Thor That made him unable to continue fighting except Thanos force block.
But still Stoic said the PG makes ANY user (not just Thor) invincible. Yet you still are attacking my post and not his. This is bias.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
problem is clownshoes, supes never one shot trans level characters... probes ranged in level n the upper upper end MIGHT be low trans. Not thanos level.Thanos beats ds as well, n honestly, it wouldnt be too tough.
Single probes were soloing teams of top tiers. The Aegis Armor was made from a burned out probe and is considered basically indestructible. They are at least Trans level. Thanos has never no sold a high herald level blunt force attack. Probes have.
The whole probe argument is retarded yeah Supes is ***** slapping them but after he gets teleported to Darkseid he gets manhandled by him with him using only 3 punches.Later on the best Superman can get out of him is a stalemate.So Darkseid must be skyfather lvl now.biscuits
Those Probes being trans lvl is only Superman fan wet dream.
They were indeed fighting teams but I bet Superman and Doomsday running through didnt meant to represent they are miles above trans .
Originally posted by h1a8there is a difference Thor wasn't close to even been put down/stopped by anything he faced and was becoming more powerful with every passing minute, hence he wouldn't if been beat making him invincible to lvl of characters he was facing.
So if a character hasn't been put down then that means nothing in the universe can put them down? This is the classic no limits fallacy.But still Stoic said the PG makes ANY user (not just Thor) invincible. Yet you still are attacking my post and not his. This is bias.
I attacked your post because you come up with this bullshit in every Thanos thread, and don't try and call me bias you clown you still spout nonsense even when posters show you scans proving you wrong time and time again.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
PG Thor is not invincible, it was sown in the very same arc that a PG user kan be koed and the gem can be taken from him. Thor koed Drax who had the gem and took it.
Drax? You mean the guy that was mentally challenged to the point that he may or may not be able to tie up his shoes? The PG's power is drawn out by thought, and Drax may have had the brain power of a kitten.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Drax is no Thor.Anyways Thanos takes the gem and proceeds to one-shot team 1 including Thor.
Thanos wins.
This would work too.
Originally posted by h1a8
So if a character hasn't been put down then that means nothing in the universe can put them down? This is the classic no limits fallacy.But still Stoic said the PG makes ANY user (not just Thor) invincible. Yet you still are attacking my post and not his. This is bias.
Where did I say any user? If you're going to quote me, you should quote me, and not add things to what I wrote. A fallacy is also when people tack numbers on things, without any numbers having been given. Then you have Philosophia calling out no limits fallacy, while making it seem impossible for team two to take this because of what DD did to that inferior of Thanos named Darkseid. So what if Superman was tearing into mid to high Herald probes, Thanos refused to go down from being hit by several blasts from a cosmic cube, and Odin was unable to keep him from getting back up, and was able to one shot slap the Surfer into dreamsville.
Originally posted by Stoicthe point is that the pg doesn't make any user invincible, otherwise we wouldn't get contradictions with drax and Thanos (he wasn't invincible either).
Drax? You mean the guy that was mentally challenged to the point that he may or may not be able to tie up his shoes? The PG's power is drawn out by thought, and Drax may have had the brain power of a kitten.This would work too.
Also we would get a no limits fallacy. Galactus, destroyer, and Odin wouldn't be able to beat a pg user through direct means
Originally posted by Stoic"pg Thor is invincible" implies that all users of the pg are invincible since Thor never was shown to be invincible (resist any level attack) which makes the fact that he had the pg the reason for the statement.
Where did I say any user? If you're going to quote me, you should quote me, and not add things to what I wrote. A fallacy is also when people tack numbers on things, without any numbers having been given. Then you have Philosophia calling out no limits fallacy, while making it seem impossible for team two to take this because of what DD did to that inferior of Thanos named Darkseid. So what if Superman was tearing into mid to high Herald probes, Thanos refused to go down from being hit by several blasts from a cosmic cube, and Odin was unable to keep him from getting back up, and was able to one shot slap the Surfer into dreamsville.
When things are unknown then we equate strength to durability.
That means Pg Thor's strength (power) is similar to his durability.
Otherwise, we have to base his durability off the highest thing he got hit with to prevent a no limits fallacy. The fact that Thanos knocked him around instead of Thor no selling attacks proves that Thor had a limit. The fact that Thor couldn't break free of the block proves that the power he had drawn wasn't infinite (which is required to make his durability infinite)
Originally posted by h1a8
DD was shattering probes like they were made of tissue paper to me. The same probes that Superman, before letting loose, couldn't really damage significantly using all of his might while fighting one for a long period of time.1-2 times is an estimate. Giving Thor the benefit of the doubt let's say 1-4 times.
Thor was dropping heralds before he even picked up the gem though...
Superman's very impressive 'heat vision, ice-breath and punch in same spot' amp was very, very impressive 😛
Like I mentioned earlier, Galactus didn't one-shot Thor. OWAW Supes ain't pulling it off.
Originally posted by krisblazeGalactus never punched Thor.
Thor was dropping heralds before he even picked up the gem though...Superman's very impressive 'heat vision, ice-breath and punch in same spot' amp was very, very impressive 😛
Like I mentioned earlier, Galactus didn't one-shot Thor. OWAW Supes ain't pulling it off.
Originally posted by Insane Titanmy point is that a character is SHOWN to be invincible if they no sell attacks, not being knocked around. Lack of blood isn't proof since that's just an artistic expression.
Complete bullshit.Thanos attacks had no effect on Thor other than pushing him around, Thanos took a double handed blast off Thanos which set Thor on fire and he was unfazed.
My point is that Thor being invincible is wrong on two accounts.
1. It creates a no limits fallacy
2. Being invincible implies infinite durability which implies infinite power drawn. But infinite power wasn't drawn cause Thor didn't one shot kill Thanos or break free from the block.
Originally posted by h1a8your point is bullshit , regardless of been knocked around if your not doing ANY damage they are not getting beat especially when they are becoming stronger , more durable and powerful.
my point is that a character is SHOWN to be invincible if they no sell attacks, not being knocked around. Lack of blood isn't proof since that's just an artistic expression.My point is that Thor being invincible is wrong on two accounts.
1. It creates a no limits fallacy
2. Being invincible implies infinite durability which implies infinite power drawn. But infinite power wasn't drawn cause Thor didn't one shot kill Thanos or break free from the block.
So if moving someone with a attack is rocking them, I geuss Thanos rocked the hell out of Galactus.
Originally posted by carver9
Thanos and Thor stomps tbh. Wasnt it stated in time, Thor with the gem would become a threat to LT?
Surely that's not true? Who was writing that? Seems like an odd thing for a writer to make such a bold statement when most things point to that being wrong.
(not directing this at you more to if that is true whoever wrote it)
Do you happen to have the scans by the way?
Originally posted by h1a8
Galactus never punched Thor.
Thor dropping heralds has nothing to do with his durability. Thor got dropped by brb and phucked up by surfers board.
And dropping something and completely killing them are two different level of power. Superman was murdering trans level things in one shot. This is insane.
Before he picked up the gem...
Probes were not trans level beings lmfao.