Originally posted by Revanchiste
He can consume dimensions(example: Mephisto's Warp-like realm), or even other beings(example: Uatu).I know.. Like C'tan gods XD. Including the Deceiver....
Tzeench magic completly outclass what Galactus is cappble to do.. No description aviable...
C'Tan god (Who share many caracteristics with galactus) are linked to the materium.... And they instantly die in contact of the immaterium...
The emperor IS A WARP GOD EVEN IF DOESN'T WANT TO BE CALL A GOD. THERE IS A THEORY ABOUT IT THAT HAVE BEEN CHECKED AND IT IS TRUE.
Mayby in the material universe HE IS A WONDERFULL PSYCHER? BUT HE IS OLDER THAT TIME ITSELF !!!!!!! OLDER THAN THE OLD ONE (something similar to chaos gods.....) + HE HAVE HIS OWN DAEMONIC ARMY, AN SHARE MULTIPLE CHARACTERISTIC WITH CHAOS GODS !!!!
Try to harm Tzeench with a bolter bullet.... (Or bolt) Or a daemon prince... You can certainly harm their manifestation in the materium...
But it is said that they could still leave in the immaterium Greater daemon still leave in the immaterium.
There is a quote of a Tzeench daemon that adress in himself to the imperium and talk about the reason that proove that the imperium is powerless against the warp forces.....I mean Tzeench within the warp is much stronger than galactus himself...
Tzeentch has hundreds of feats thru his Avatars teh Lord of Changes and his Followers like Thousand Sons, Magnus, Lesser Daemons, Chaos Lords, ect.
I mean Tzeench prefere to use other to achieve his goals as he follow his own Idelology.... It is self limitation.
+Chaos gods are chaos gods.
They cant be killed or done away with once coming into being.
Except by Ynnead..... Who just is the god of logic ****... (If chaos was not enough absent of logic....)
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Quote :
"A) No, every single being is not a part of the material universe, there's the infinite inhabitants of the Warp.B) It clearly says by the emotions and souls of every being of the material universe. There's nothing "obviously" limiting it to the known universe.
C) They're powered by every being not just the ones leaving off psychic energy.
D) Tzeentch is active in the Warhammer: Fantasy universe that Games Workshop has clearly stated is not in the 40k Universe. So not only do the Chaos Gods have domain over the material universe of 40k but they are also present in the Fantasy Universe, making them multi-universal Gods...and before you, very politely I'm sure, inquire yes they are the same entity."
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Its a Tzeentch minion from the Warhammer Fantasy Universe, which is not a part of the Milky way. This is evidence of Tzeentch affecting life in a different universe.
The C'tan can consume material objects like stars and people, but they cannot do it on even remotely the same level as Galactus. Galactus has shown to be capable of absorbing the whole universe while the C'tan took millions of years to consume individual stars. You're comparing microbes to an elephant here. They also cannot consume dimensions like the Warp, but Galactus can.
No description available; no feats available. I thought as much. Galactus outclasses Tzeentch by many orders of magnitude.
The C'tan compare to Galactus in the same way that a firecracker compares to a supernova.
Yea, it's a theory. There are quite a few theories about what will be the Emperor's ultimate fate. Currently, though, the so-called Warp "god" is stuck on a glorified golden chair with life-support, dying slowly but surely. Not very god-like, if you ask me.
No, he's not older than time. The Emperor was born in 6000 B.C. That makes him older than the Chaos Gods, but much younger than the Old Ones. The Emperor has his own daemonic servants now? I'd like to see them, can you show me?
Well, apparently they can be harmed by bolters, though I imagine it would a lot of bolters to take down a Daemon Prince.
It's true that if you want to kill a daemon within the Warp, a bolter is not enough. You need psychic powers. Fortunately, Galactus's Power Cosmic is more than sufficient for that.
I've yet to see proof of that.
Yes, he does. Sadly, none of those feats even begin to compare to Galactus. Magnus —Tzeentch's mightiest servant — is more or less on a planetary level, while Galactus is universal+.
I agree. Tzeentch, just like the rest of the Warp-spawn, are limited by their own nature.
Oh, they can be done away with. They either need to be cut off from their source of nourishment or simply destroyed by a greater being(a being like Galactus or The Living Tribunal). If daemons can be killed within the Warp, then so can the Chaos Gods. And we shouldn't forget that the Chaos Gods are nothing more than extremely powerful, bloated daemons.
Ynnead is an Eldar legend who doesn't even exist yet and may not ever exist. Pretty much anything about it is pure speculation.
A) There's no reason to believe that the Warp is infinite, but even if it was, the Chaos Gods are not in charge of it all.
B) That doesn't make sense to me. Powered by every single soul in the material universe and that somehow means that they're not limited to it? Doesn't really follow.
C) Probably. I'm not 100% sure.
D) How does that make the Chaos Gods have domain over the material universe? I'm personally not convinced that Warhammer Fantasy and 40K are part of the same multiverse, but rather that they're own two different things that share some concepts and names. Even if it's true though, that still doesn't mean much. It would mean that the Chaos Gods can interact with two different universes, but that still doesn't mean they have multiversal power. And even then, there are beings in Marvel that can destroy trillions of multiverses with a thought. 2 universes are nothing.