Godzilla vs Sinestro

Originally posted by leonidas
some of what cadence mentioned is.....loosely interpreted. i've seen similar lists and claims made on many websites. over the course of my bz against digi i checked out each one..... even the thor shot was....a little suspect. he basically just flew into godzilla's nose. lol and the text says godzilla "felt pain like he'd never known...."

sinestro wins this. ring shields have EFFORTLESSLY withstood FAR greater amounts of damage than godzilla can output. and that's just ONE advantage. sinestro has far too many options here, for godzilla to have any realistic chance to win this, and i LOVE godzilla.

Originally posted by CadenceV2
I agree it's kinda vague what I said 🙂 I have scans in the Hulk vs Composite GZ thread of the better feats.

Heisei GZ is somewhat a planet buster in his total power.

Legendary has feats shrugging of 14 megaton Nuke as well the life ending meteor at ground zero with no damage.

Final wars GZ also tanked the force of a city busting meteor too.

Then you have the nuke fire breath which burns as hot as the surface of the sun by radiation heat. Same Radiation breath in the Red Spiral Beam can one shot Space Godzilla who has stated to withstand a blackhole with exploding stars. Yet the Red Spiral Ray one shots Space GZ pretty much.

So composite GZ has merits.

well, were i debating against godzilla, i'd have a few issues with some of the above as well, but godzilla IS a powerhouse, no doubt about it so i'll just end by saying that some of the interpretations of events can be.....looked at in other ways. 🙂

when we're talking about sinestro or any of the highest gl's, we're talking about people in the surfer's league. there just isn't any support at all to suggest godzilla could handle someone of that level with that level of versatility. with one quick scan sinestro could learn what make godzilla tick down to the molecular level. way too many options, not to mention speed and shielding. sinestro would take this 10/10 imo with varying degrees of difficulty.

Originally posted by leonidas
well, were i debating against godzilla, i'd have a few issues with some of the above as well, but godzilla IS a powerhouse, no doubt about it so i'll just end by saying that some of the interpretations of events can be.....looked at in other ways. 🙂

when we're talking about sinestro or any of the highest gl's, we're talking about people in the surfer's league. there just isn't any support at all to suggest godzilla could handle someone of that level with that level of versatility. with one quick scan sinestro could learn what make godzilla tick down to the molecular level. way too many options, not to mention speed and shielding. sinestro would take this 10/10 imo with varying degrees of difficulty.

I always wonder why GL job to Kryptonians or anything lower myself. I was also always disgusted with injustice DC universe GL or Sinestro.

Same.
If they can scan and break down characters to a molecular level that tactic needs to be used more often. Unless its argued that knowing what makes Godzilla (or Superman) tick isnt going to be all that useful...

Godzilla wins

I think Marvel's Godzilla was portrayed as somewhat above the conventional top tier. Or, at the least, way more durable. He apparently wasn't physically stronger than Thor, but he was a Thor + Avengers + Fantastic Four level threat factoring in his size and toughness. Even reduced to sub-T-Rex size (and the corresponding attribute decrease), Godzilla was apparently an equal-ish fight to the Thing, so at full size he was pretty strong. Thor actually had a little crisis of confidence over his ability to win when he saw Godzilla up close and personal and even compared him to the Midgard Serpent at one point.

The IDW Godzilla is a complete monster, almost unstoppable. He literally no-sells high-megaton nuclear missiles blowing up in his face, shrugs off being dropped from orbit etc. He's strong enough to resist the pull of a weaponised black hole, and subsequently survived being rugby tackled into the middle of the black hole. His EP is at least nuclear level, and has one-shot destroyed Washington DC, the backlash of beam wars with other monsters destroyed Manhattan and, in another instance, destroyed mountains and apparently "altered the world forever."

It's pretty hard to visualise a fight between Godzilla and Sinestro for obvious reasons and it's a pretty difficult battle to call as a result. Godzilla's comic portrayal is often (not always) arguably more Kurse or Mangog than Mongul or Ulik or whoever, at least in terms of his toughness to seriously damage. I think the fact that a weaker comic version of Godzilla was portrayed as almost impossible to put down for the combined Avengers and FF suggests that Sinestro would likewise be portrayed as struggling to make a meaningful impact on him. At least in terms of raw firepower and conventional attacks, some of the more plot device-y ring powers might work better.

Honestly, who knows? They are two very different characters from two very different genres, making cross-universe comparisons even more difficult than usual.

Cheers.

^ nice breakdown. I really need to read IDW GZ.

Originally posted by LGU
I think Marvel's Godzilla was portrayed as somewhat above the conventional top tier. Or, at the least, way more durable. He apparently wasn't physically stronger than Thor, but he was a Thor + Avengers + Fantastic Four level threat factoring in his size and toughness. Even reduced to sub-T-Rex size (and the corresponding attribute decrease), Godzilla was apparently an equal-ish fight to the Thing, so at full size he was pretty strong. Thor actually had a little crisis of confidence over his ability to win when he saw Godzilla up close and personal and even compared him to the Midgard Serpent at one point.

The IDW Godzilla is a complete monster, almost unstoppable. He literally no-sells high-megaton nuclear missiles blowing up in his face, shrugs off being dropped from orbit etc. He's strong enough to resist the pull of a weaponised black hole, and subsequently survived being rugby tackled into the middle of the black hole. His EP is at least nuclear level, and has one-shot destroyed Washington DC, the backlash of beam wars with other monsters destroyed Manhattan and, in another instance, destroyed mountains and apparently "altered the world forever."

It's pretty hard to visualise a fight between Godzilla and Sinestro for obvious reasons and it's a pretty difficult battle to call as a result. Godzilla's comic portrayal is often (not always) arguably more Kurse or Mangog than Mongul or Ulik or whoever, at least in terms of his toughness to seriously damage. I think the fact that a weaker comic version of Godzilla was portrayed as almost impossible to put down for the combined Avengers and FF suggests that Sinestro would likewise be portrayed as struggling to make a meaningful impact on him. At least in terms of raw firepower and conventional attacks, some of the more plot device-y ring powers might work better.

Honestly, who knows? They are two very different characters from two very different genres, making cross-universe comparisons even more difficult than usual.

Cheers.

that initial battle against the avengers and ff was only a part of the story though. later godzilla was mutated and defeated by ironman, so marvel's opinion on godzilla, and his level, certainly changed over time. even in that original series he was easily beaten by being shrunk. and tp would certainly destroy him. he's a tank, no doubt, but city busting attacks (at the outside) won't cut it against high heralds with crazy versatility. there is also a bit of the inverse ninja effect to consider whenever a group of heroes get together.

anyway, everything i've seen and read of him would tell me he doesn't have much chance here at all.

yeah, sinestro wins. hell, the most powerful attack i've seen from goozeera wouldn't even come close to breaching sinestro's auto-shields.

additionally, i'd put sinestro's will/fear-powered constructs/blasts above big g's hide. just MO. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
yeah, sinestro wins. hell, the most powerful attack i've seen from goozeera wouldn't even come close to breaching sinestro's auto-shields.

additionally, i'd put sinestro's will/fear-powered constructs/blasts above big g's hide. just MO. 🙂

I just am not convince Sinestro can easy harm GZ for many reasons.

GZ has tanked explosive damage that by art is continent level. (Godzilla Awakening)

GZ has withstood blackholes several times. (GZ in IDW comics, Godzilla vs Space godzilla)

GZ has withstood attacks on the molecule or cell level and regen faster than it could harm him. (Godzilla vs Biolantte, Godzilla vs Destroyah)

GZ has easy shrugged of multiple hits of his own heat beam return back at him at a factor of 10,000 times as stated. Nuclear heat return at. 10,000 times. Wow . (Godzilla vs Biolantte)

So why does Sinestro easy solo a being with this tanking feats?

...because godzilla has lower-end feats to go along with his higher-end feats.

heck, he was very recently skewered to shit by a few mechas. sinestro's constructs/blasts>mecha-lances.

Sinestro for majority.

Originally posted by Galan007
...because godzilla has lower-end feats to go along with his higher-end feats.

heck, he was very recently skewered to shit by a few mechas. sinestro's constructs/blasts>mecha-lances.

Honestly by that logic Green Arrow can harm Sinestro with arrows as per the canon of Injustice League versions.

While Godzilla can be pierced by super sci fi, or monsters attacks, he is immune to real world weapons. He has more high end showings than low ones anyway too through out the movies.

Add in Wolverine level healing factor there is nothing to brush off here as easy for Sinestro. Just IMO.

I know Sinestro has lower showings a lot too.

Doesn't current Sinestro have mastery over Parallax? I haven't been picking up his ongoing, but if he does he'd tear Godzilla to ribbons.

Originally posted by Galan007
...because godzilla has lower-end feats to go along with his higher-end feats.

heck, he was very recently skewered to shit by a few mechas. sinestro's constructs/blasts>mecha-lances.

Mechagodzillas and MegaKing Ghidorah are alien tech though, no telling in how strong they are when compared with conventional machines.

Originally posted by riv6672
Well the OP says no BFR so over half your post is invalid right there.
Marvel Godzilla's considered the weakest of the comics versions, and he tanked a hit from Mjolnir, one of the most powerful weapons in comics. This us an amalgam of that Godzilla and the more powerful ones.

Sinestro loses.

Dude, he didn't "tank" Mjolnire and Marvel Goji isn't necessarily the weakest incarnation of Goji. I've seen Godzillas pierced by conventional weapons and blow out to pieces by their own atomic breath, I know there are several Gojis that Sinestro will humilliate.

Even those who have boss regeneration have been pierced before and need a fonctioning brain to move. Sinestro can pierce a construct through Gojis eyeballs and keep it in his skull enough for it to count as a win by incapacitation.

No Godzilla can beat Sinestro, the most powerful incarnations can at least give him some trouble.

Sinestro tanked Volthoom destroying Korugar and he wasn't even KOED. And destroyed Volthoom's force field which the entire Rainbow Corps couldn't. He would spite stomp Godzilla.

Not even a force-field, it was just his normal auto-shield and he didn't had even a scratch on him.

nuts

All in all Godzilla's outmatched here.

Sinestro's just too powerful, imo.

Regardless of strategy it would always end with Sinestro eventually taking the win.

Looking at those scans, its hard for me to understand how somebody perceives he wasn't KO'd or scratched. He's laying motionless in the one panel. The next has him maybe starting to move. Also his costume looks like swiss cheese. I'm sure he had a scratch or two on him.

Regardless, it doesn't mean anything to me. I think we all realize Sinestro beats the lizard.