War Hulk & Death Sentry vs. WWH & Voidtry

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Does his multiple personality disorder make him drastically weaker?

That was WBH not WWH so that's not the battle we are talking about.

No it's fine, I read the comic and was satisfied a weakened Sentry stalemated one of the most powerful Hulks seen. You are just upset because Sentry being weakened makes Hulk look worse off.

Again allow me to put you right.

He was standing in his house for 29 hours only when Hulk was about to kill the heroes did he intervene he had no choice.

The president tried to get him to attack but he wouldn't. He never wanted that fight. Hulk was his old friend. He had no choice in the end.

I can repeat these arguments as I know they're right.

All you can base your argument on is Sentry smiling.

As I missed your last part of your message I will make an edit here.

Yes he said that, he was losing control, which was when Hulk convinced him to be the Savior. There's your answer.

As for the question of it making him drastically weaker. Yes it does. The grey Hulk, Merged Hulk, Savage Hulk were all drastically weaker than the Green Scar persona. This was an enraged hulk/Banner that was full in control of his power levels and how far he was willing to push it. This is written in stone, not opinion. If you go back and review Planet Hulk and the training he underwent to control his rage, while being stronger than ever. WW Hulk, WB Hulk, and the Green Scar were one persona, not multiple persona's separated for battle board purposes. He held back the entire time, which means that he was actually going easy on the Sentry during their fight, which was made canon in a later arc called Heart of the Monster (HOTM).

I'm not upset at anything, The Hulk won the fight. It would be a stalemate if Bob, and Bruce fell over together. Bob was the only one KO'd. He lost the fight.

When he was standing in his house for all of that time, he was having issues, I am not arguing that point. However the moment that he left his house and did not return, it became clear that he was fine, and able to do battle. If not, he would have returned to his dwelling, to continue attempting to get it together. Agoraphobia. Look up the meaning. If he was suffering from the condition at the moment that he left his house he would have froze up, and returned home. Tony's pep talk cured him for the purposes of the battle to come. If not I guess that we should say that all of his battles, and showings were BS, and that he was weakened.

He had the same smirk of confidence against Terrax, as he had when he went up against the Hulk. He was simply unable to execute.

When the President tried to get him to intercede he was not well. He got over it, or he would have remained catatonic.

You're basing you're opinion on anything other than facts, and more to the tune of I didn't like the way Sentry operated, so I'm going to make up things that were not on panel concerning the situation at hand. he was fine against Genis and Terrax, but later after the fights he returns to his mental condition. It was not something that plagued him 24/7, but that plagued him from time to time. before he left his house he was messed up. Tony helped him over it, and he got better. He also even states the joy he felt at finally being able to release the amount of power that he was releasing on the Hulk. That was not indicative of him suffering from his agoraphobia issues at that moment in time. Anyways I have to go take care of things.

I guess some of you have difficulty understanding the context of the comics you read...

They make it pretty damn obviously that Sentry was the bigger threat.

Sorry the writers didnt dumb it down for you guys to understand.
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Originally posted by Stoic
As for the question of it making him drastically weaker. Yes it does. The grey Hulk, Merged Hulk, Savage Hulk were all drastically weaker than the Green Scar persona. This was an enraged hulk/Banner that was full in control of his power levels and how far he was willing to push it. This is written in stone, not opinion. If you go back and review Planet Hulk and the training he underwent to control his rage, while being stronger than ever. WW Hulk, WB Hulk, and the Green Scar were one persona, not multiple persona's separated for battle board purposes. He held back the entire time, which means that he was actually going easy on the Sentry during their fight, which was made canon in a later arc called Heart of the Monster (HOTM).

I'm not upset at anything, The Hulk won the fight. It would be a stalemate if Bob, and Bruce fell over together. Bob was the only one KO'd. He lost the fight.

When he was standing in his house for all of that time, he was having issues, I am not arguing that point. However the moment that he left his house and did not return, it became clear that he was fine, and able to do battle. If not, he would have returned to his dwelling, to continue attempting to get it together. Agoraphobia. Look up the meaning. If he was suffering from the condition at the moment that he left his house he would have froze up, and returned home. Tony's pep talk cured him for the purposes of the battle to come. If not I guess that we should say that all of his battles, and showings were BS, and that he was weakened.

He had the same smirk of confidence against Terrax, as he had when he went up against the Hulk. He was simply unable to execute.

When the President tried to get him to intercede he was not well. He got over it, or he would have remained catatonic.

You're basing you're opinion on anything other than facts, and more to the tune of I didn't like the way Sentry operated, so I'm going to make up things that were not on panel concerning the situation at hand. he was fine against Genis and Terrax, but later after the fights he returns to his mental condition. It was not something that plagued him 24/7, but that plagued him from time to time. before he left his house he was messed up. Tony helped him over it, and he got better. He also even states the joy he felt at finally being able to release the amount of power that he was releasing on the Hulk. That was not indicative of him suffering from his agoraphobia issues at that moment in time. Anyways I have to go take care of things.

Yep okay then I agree with that anyway. In the same way Sentry is held back and weakened by his Agoraphobia Hulk can be held up by that. But he only became such a hardass because he went through training like you mentioned.

One thing I wasn't sure of is the Green Scar, I always thought that was just another name for WWH.

Stoic as I have said he had no other choice. He watched the telly while Hulk had his hand in the air, when he placed that thumb down he charged in. It wasn't about him being ready to fight, it was about him having no other choice to save them. His pep talk didn't cure him.

After he spoke to him he stood in his house for 29 hours so it didn't help. The whole thing Reed and Stark were doing was to convince him. It didn't work.

Dr. Cornelius couldn't do it the majority of the time so I don't see how they could do it in your eyes.

He had confidence against Terrax. Answer me this.

Before he fought Terrax did he say his Agoraphobia was affecting him and that somebody else would have to deal with him?

He was confident against Terrax and absolutely tooled him.

That's rich coming from you, you have based the majority of your argument over him smiling. Yes his illness plagues him more times than others. Tony didn't help him in any way.

Yes he said that, and as I repeat again. He was unstable and risked losing control, and Hulk helped him, case closed.

Dont hold your breath...

They will never concede no matter how wrong they are.

Again what does it matter if Sentry lost a battle of stats at Hulks own game? He had not mastered not understand his own powers till the Molecule Man fight well after.

Hulk gets decimated by Void and Void is the Sentry using his full powers (with a evil personality) and Sentry did not get this full use of powers till after Molecule Man.

So WWH beat a weaker version of Sentry. By weaker I mean Sentry had no clue what his powers limits were or even what he could do with them.

Whoope freaking doo.

Originally posted by bbrem123
Dont hold your breath...

They will never concede no matter how wrong they are.

I've got all day, I can enjoy watching them going from

Thing making a hyperbolic statement about him releasing his full power.

To him smiling which means he wasn't holding back.

Whereas any amount of scans I offer showing Robert himself saying he is worried doesn't matter,

They even twist him saying he was glad to let go when he was losing control. He is scared of letting go because he thinks the Void will be released and by going into that fight he had no other choice to. He risked losing control, and guess what he did.And luckily Hulk convinced Sentry by word.

Does everyone forget this? (not directed at you bbrem123)

This is exactly what Sentry means by being afraid about the Void. Jimmy Hammond exploited that by telling him the fire would increase his power.

Originally posted by CadenceV2
Again what does it matter if Sentry lost a battle of stats at Hulks own game? He had not mastered not understand his own powers till the Molecule Man fight well after.

Hulk gets decimated by Void and Void is the Sentry using his full powers (with a evil personality) and Sentry did not get this full use of powers till after Molecule Man.

So WWH beat a weaker version of Sentry. By weaker I mean Sentry had no clue what his powers limits were or even what he could do with them.

Whoope freaking doo.

Trouble is he didn't even beat him. They stalemated.

I've yet to see how Hulk won that fight.

Hulk convinced Sentry to be the Saviour. Sentry overloaded Hulk to the point he went back to Banner and Robert thanks to Hulks words turned back to normal.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Does his multiple personality disorder make him drastically weaker?

That was WBH not WWH so that's not the battle we are talking about.

No it's fine, I read the comic and was satisfied a weakened Sentry stalemated one of the most powerful Hulks seen. You are just upset because Sentry being weakened makes Hulk look worse off.

Again allow me to put you right.

He was standing in his house for 29 hours only when Hulk was about to kill the heroes did he intervene he had no choice.

The president tried to get him to attack but he wouldn't. He never wanted that fight. Hulk was his old friend. He had no choice in the end.

I can repeat these arguments as I know they're right.

All you can base your argument on is Sentry smiling.

As I missed your last part of your message I will make an edit here.

Yes he said that, he was losing control, which was when Hulk convinced him to be the Savior. There's your answer.

It was clearly explained why Sentry didn't want that fight and it had nothing to do with friendship. He didn't want that fight because he knew he had to bring EVERY THING to the table to fight a Hulk at this level and that is exactly what happened.

Originally posted by carver9
It was clearly explained why Sentry didn't want that fight and it had nothing to do with friendship. He didn't want that fight because he knew he had to bring EVERY THING to the table to fight a Hulk at this level and that is exactly what happened.

What are you on about? He never said he needed to bring everything to the table.

When Reed and Stark were talking to him he said Hulks my friend.

He didn't want to fight Carver, because he was mentally unstable and was scared that if he lost control he could destroy everything. And he did lose control and before anything could happen Hulk convinced Robert to stop therefore saving everyone.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Trouble is he didn't even beat him. They stalemated.

I've yet to see how Hulk won that fight.

Hulk convinced Sentry to be the Saviour. Sentry overloaded Hulk to the point he went back to Banner and Robert thanks to Hulks words turned back to normal.

They didn't stalemate. Who is this passing out?

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/wwh026.jpg.html

Who is still standing up?

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
What are you on about? He never said he needed to bring everything to the table.

When Reed and Stark were talking to him he said Hulks my friend.

He didn't want to fight Carver, because he was mentally unstable and was scared that if he lost control he could destroy everything. And he did lose control and before anything could happen Hulk convinced Robert to stop therefore saving everyone.

"Against an opponent this powerful. The amount of energy I'll have to exert". What does Tony say after that? "It scares me too Sentry".

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/45138/935886-aa_wwh03_027.jpg

Self explanatory. Tells you right there why Sentry didn't want to fight Hulk. Not because he had any mental problems, he was scared of the outcome fighting someone so powerful. SMH.

Originally posted by carver9
They didn't stalemate. Who is this passing out?

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/wwh026.jpg.html

Who is still standing up?

You know who is standing up so don't ask such a sarcastic question, what don't you understand about this?

Don't you notice Sentry's eyes faltering in that panel when Hulk is speaking to him? Hulk managed to get through to him, it's such a different context to what you think it's laughable.

Originally posted by carver9
"Against an opponent this powerful. The amount of energy I'll have to exert". What does Tony say after that? "It scares me too Sentry".

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/45138/935886-aa_wwh03_027.jpg

Self explanatory. Tells you right there why Sentry didn't want to fight Hulk. Not because he had any mental problems, he was scared of the outcome fighting someone so powerful. SMH.

Yes because if he exerted too much energy he was so mentally unstable that if he did lose control exerting it he would lose control and the Void would come out.

No need to shake your head mate.

Funniest thing is you twisted that scan even though you posted it. He says

"The amount of energy I'd have to expend... If I lost control even for a millisecond"

So get it right and stop lying to twist stories to suit your purpose

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Yes because if he exerted too much energy he was so mentally unstable that if he did lose control exerting it he would lose control and the Void would come out.

No need to shake your head mate.

Funniest thing is you twisted that scan even though you posted it. He says

"The amount of energy I'd have to expend... If I lost control even for a millisecond"

So get it right and stop lying to twist stories to suit your purpose

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
You know who is standing up so don't ask such a sarcastic question, what don't you understand about this?

Don't you notice Sentry's eyes faltering in that panel when Hulk is speaking to him? Hulk managed to get through to him, it's such a different context to what you think it's laughable.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Yes because if he exerted too much energy he was so mentally unstable that if he did lose control exerting it he would lose control and the Void would come out.

No need to shake your head mate.

Funniest thing is you twisted that scan even though you posted it. He says

"The amount of energy I'd have to expend... If I lost control even for a millisecond"

So get it right and stop lying to twist stories to suit your purpose

WTF? You are making up things as you go. The words I said have the same meaning. It's crazy that you got Void out of all that he said in that scan. Your mind is made up. I would love to battlezone this.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Deep down he knows that the context isn't what he claims it is. Even at the Hulk's near best he burned out against a mentally unstable Sentry. Amazing showing for the Sentry according to Pak.

Sentry can beat Odin.

Originally posted by carver9
WTF? You are making up things as you go. The words I said have the same meaning. It's crazy that you got Void out of all that he said in that scan. Your mind is made up. I would love to battlezone this.

Yes because carver and here I will tell you again.

Sentry is scared of ever releasing his power as the Void can escape if he loses control. That's why he ran away when Hammond told him he was giving him power.

Even if we did a battle zone are you going to display no bias? All that will happen is you will make the same arguments which rely on no evidence compared to mine which do.

You haven't answered any of my other posts on this page.

I don't need to do a battlezone with you.

I won the battle on this thread already.

What is remaining is just you trying to save face, I suggest you admit you're wrong. Stop making vague unsubstantiated arguments and carry on debating other threads.

Originally posted by carver9
Sentry can beat Odin.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He beat the MM so absolutely. This isn't the Hulk who puked and dry heaves after Zeus raped him.

He's just trying to save face. By making such an irrelevant post which I thought was against the rules he distracts from the argument at hand. Which he is losing.