Originally posted by One_Angry_ScotYeah, but he doesn't even understand half of his arguments and gets so confused on stepping over them all this is all he has are irrelevant statements to distract people from his utter incompetence.
He's just trying to save face. By making such an irrelevant post which I thought was against the rules he distracts from the argument at hand. Which he is losing.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Yes because carver and here I will tell you again.Sentry is scared of ever releasing his power as the Void can escape if he loses control. That's why he ran away when Hammond told him he was giving him power.
Even if we did a battle zone are you going to display no bias? All that will happen is you will make the same arguments which rely on no evidence compared to mine which do.
You haven't answered any of my other posts on this page.
I don't need to do a battlezone with you.
I won the battle on this thread already.
What is remaining is just you trying to save face, I suggest you admit you're wrong. Stop making vague unsubstantiated arguments and carry on debating other threads.
It doesnt matter if he's scared to lose control because of the Void because in the Hulk fight, he ADMITS he finally let go.
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/wwh020.jpg.html
And everyone agreed with him.
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/wwh016.jpg.html
It doesnt matter if I am bias in a battlezone. The judges doesn't base their opinions off of that. If you win you win. We need to choose voters. Do you have anyone in mind that you would like to judge this. Topic... you have to prove that Sentry was unstable and mentally compromised to the point Hulk fought a weakened Sentry and I have to prove the opposite. Are you down?
Originally posted by carver9
It doesnt matter if he's scared to lose control because of the Void because in the Hulk fight, he ADMITS he finally let go.http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/wwh020.jpg.html
And everyone agreed with him.
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/wwh016.jpg.html
It doesnt matter if I am bias in a battlezone. The judges doesn't base their opinions off of that. If you win you win. We need to choose voters. Do you have anyone in particular that you would like to judge this. Topic... you have to prove that Sentry was unstable and mentally compromised to the point Hulk fought a weakened Hulk and I have to prove the opposite. Are you down?
It doesnt matter if he's scared to lose control
It does as if he does the Void can escape.
he ADMITS he finally let go
He didn't admit to letting go under his own intentions carver. For the 15th time.
He lost control which is when Hulk convinced him to be the Saviour.
I am 100% cool with a battlezone, I am fully happy to do so. The problem is we would need completely impartial judges. And people that hate Sentry aren't that. You need equal on both sides. I would suggest a couple of the mods.
Who would you want?
Plus what do you mean by a weakened Hulk? I never said anything of the sort.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
It does as if he does the Void can escape.He didn't admit to letting go under his own intentions carver. For the 15th time.
He lost control which is when Hulk convinced him to be the Saviour.
I am 100% cool with a battlezone, I am fully happy to do so. The problem is we would need completely impartial judges. And people that hate Sentry aren't that. You need equal on both sides. I would suggest a couple of the mods.
Who would you want?
WTF? He didn't admit to letting go under his own intentions? It doesn't matter. The only thing that mattered is, he let go. Wasnt holding anything back and Hulk endured it and won and then moments later, had enough energy in him to become even more powerful than he was against Sentry.
Hulk convinced him to be a savior huh? Is that why he was still punching Hulk in the face?
People that care less about Hulk or Sentry...
Galan, Pr, Sam, Dmills, and Celey.
Another good choice even though he hates the Hulk but isn't biased at all (advantage for you). Rao. I think he would be a good choice as well. None of them care about the Hulk or Sentry to the point of being biased.
Originally posted by carver9
WTF? He didn't admit to letting go under his own intentions? It doesn't matter. The only thing that mattered is, he let go. Wasnt holding anything back and Hulk endured it and won and then moments later, had enough energy in him to become even more powerful than he was against Sentry.Hulk convinced him to be a savior huh? Is that why he was still punching Hulk in the face?
People that care less about Hulk or Sentry...
Galan, Pr, Sam, Dmills, and Celey.
Another good choice even though he hates the Hulk but isn't biased at all (advantage for you). Rao. I think he would be a good choice as well. None of them care about the Hulk or Sentry to the point of being biased.
Because and you fail here again, you missed something out.
All he said when you were talking was
Savior
Destroyer
He could've been speaking about anyone.
And for your information they weren't even punching eachtoher then. They had grabbed eachother.
They punched eachother when Hulk said.
"What matters is what you choose.
So retract that statement please.
If they're truly unbiased then fine go ahead.
But remember right now in Scotland it's 10PM and I need to be in bed at 12 for College tomorrow, so if you can organise with everyone within an hour you may as well try.
Or we can get started tomorrow.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Because and you fail here again, you missed something out.All he said when you were talking was
Savior
Destroyer
He could've been speaking about anyone.
And for your information they weren't even punching eachtoher then. They had grabbed eachother.
They punched eachother when Hulk said.
"What matters is what you choose.
So retract that statement please.
If they're truly unbiased then fine go ahead.
But remember right now in Scotland it's 10PM and I need to be in bed at 12 for College tomorrow, so if you can organise with everyone within an hour you may as well try.
Or we can get started tomorrow.
Are you going to sit here and tell me that after the savior and Destroyer comment came up, Sentry didn't continue punching him? What is this then?
Savior and Destroyer brought up but Sentry and Hulk is still fighting.
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/wwh023.jpg.html
Hell, their punches get even harder by looking at the boom, BOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMM...
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/wwh024.jpg.html
They're still fighting...
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/wwh025.jpg.html
Come on One Angry. Like for real. Please stop.
Originally posted by carver9
Do you're going to sit here and tell me that after the savior and Destroyer comment came up, Sentry didn't continue punching him? What is this then?Savior and Destroyer brought up but Sentry and Hulk is still fighting.
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/wwh023.jpg.html
Hell, their punches get even harder by looking at the boom, BOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMM...
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/wwh024.jpg.html
They're still fighting...
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/wwh025.jpg.html
Come One Angry. Like for real. Please stop.
Why don't you stop and just read the bloody scan yourself?
They grabbed eachother.
When Hulk said
"What matters is what you choose"
Is when they punched eachother.
You are stooping even lower.
Have you sorted out this battlezone yet?
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
One thing I wasn't sure of is the Green Scar, I always thought that was just another name for WWH.Stoic as I have said he had no other choice. He watched the telly while Hulk had his hand in the air, when he placed that thumb down he charged in. It wasn't about him being ready to fight, it was about him having no other choice to save them. His pep talk didn't cure him.
Dr. Cornelius couldn't do it the majority of the time so I don't see how they could do it in your eyes.
He had confidence against Terrax. Answer me this.
Before he fought Terrax did he say his Agoraphobia was affecting him and that somebody else would have to deal with him?
He was confident against Terrax and absolutely tooled him.
That's rich coming from you, you have based the majority of your argument over him smiling. Yes his illness plagues him more times than others. Tony didn't help him in any way.
Yes he said that, and as I repeat again. He was unstable and risked losing control, and Hulk helped him, case closed.
1. The Green Scar, WW Hulk, and World Breaker Hulk were the very same persona. The Mods decided to separate WW Hulk levels from WB Hulk levels for purposes of keeping things under control when debating the Hulk's level of power. It's much like separating OWAW Superman from regular Superman. They are the same character, but at different levels. The difference is that the Hulk was able to ramp up to World Breaker levels where Superman needed an outside source.
2. You say that Dr. Cornelius was unable to cure the Sentry of his Agoraphobia, which means that he still had this condition while humbling Terrax, and still had the condition when fighting Genis which carried over to his battle with WW Hulk/Green Scar who was also The World Breaker like it or not. Do you understand what I am saying here? You can't cherry pick when Sentry was stricken, and when he was not. It was a mental condition, and feeling better was a close as a thought process away. You are ignoring on panel evidence to suit your own incorrect views of events.
Was he still suffering form his condition against the Blue Marvel? Sure he had a condition, but like I said he could feel one way in one instance and feel another way in mere minutes. This is not a physical condition, but a mental state.
I am not basing my opinion solely on a smile, there are several points of evidence that can be tacked onto Sentry being in tip top when he fought against the Hulk. You are the one bringing up one piece of flimsy evidence, and not willing to see several others that indicate that Bob was in the same mental condition that he was in when he fought Terrax, and Genis. He says that he is enjoying the feeling of pouring on his power, agoraphobia to the point that you are claiming would hamper him so severely that he would have remained in his house shaking, and sucking his thumb.
Was he suffering when he fought against Blue Marvel? Was he suffering when he had a run in with Anti Man? What happened during those encounters? He still had the condition when he fought against others, but only when he loses to WW Hulk does he get the traction treatment. Bullsh1t.
Originally posted by Stoic
1. The Green Scar, WW Hulk, and World Breaker Hulk were the very same persona. The Mods decided to separate WW Hulk levels from WB Hulk levels for purposes of keeping things under control when debating the Hulk's level of power. It's much like separating OWAW Superman from regular Superman. They are the same character, but as different levels. The difference is that the Hulk was able to ramp up to World Breaker levels where Superman needed an outside source.2. You say that Dr. Cornelius was unable to cure the Sentry of his Agoraphobia, which means that he still had this condition while humbling Terrax, and still had the condition when fighting Genis which carried over to his battle with WW Hulk/Green Scar who was also The World Breaker like it or not. Do you understand what I am saying here? You can't cheery pick when Sentry was stricken, and when he was not. It was a mental condition, and feeling better was a close as a thought process away. You are ignoring on panel evidence to suit your own incorrect views of events.
Was he still suffering form his condition against the Blue Marvel? Sure he had a condition, but like I said he could feel one way in one instance and feel another way in mere minutes. This is not a physical condition, but a mental state.
I am not basing my opinion solely on a smile, there are several points of evidence that can be tacked onto Sentry being in tip top when he fought against the Hulk. You are the one bringing up one piece of flimsy evidence, and not willing to see several others that indicate that Bob was in the same mental condition that he was in when he fought Terrax, and Genis. He says that he is enjoying the feeling of pouring on his power, agoraphobia to the point that you are claiming would hamper him so severely that he would have remained in his house shaking, and sucking his thumb.
Was he suffering when he fought against Blue Marvel? Was he suffering when he had a run in with Anti Man? What happened during those encounters? He still had the condition when he fought against others, but only when he loses to WW Hulk was does he get the traction treatment. Bullsh1t.
1. Okay then thanks for clarifying that.
2. Sentry did have his Agoraphobia when he though Terrax except from some days like that, he sin't badly affected by it. I myself have Agoraphobia and I have good and bad days in the same way (except I am not capable of shattering planets or levelling city blocks).
He had this condition when he fought Hulk but it was much worse which is why he was weakened quite a lot when he fought Hulk. I never cherry picked when he was stricken. I pointed out when he was extremely bad. He always has Agoraphobia just not always is he being severely affected i.e comparing him in the Genis fight vs the WWH fight.
He was suffering against Blue Marvel as he always suffers from it. It's likely he was more stable as he didn't need convincing to fight.
I am not basing my opinion solely on a smile, there are several points of evidence that can be tacked onto Sentry being in tip top when he fought against the Hulk. You are the one bringing up one piece of flimsy evidence
Show me it then.
He says that he is enjoying the feeling of pouring on his power, agoraphobia to the point that you are claiming would hamper him so severely that he would have remained in his house shaking, and sucking his thumb.
For the 16th time, he had no choice otherwise the heroes died. He never wanted the fight. It was only when Hulk was going to kill the heroes that Robert stepped in.
So you don't need to twist the statement.
Was he suffering when he fought against Blue Marvel? Was he suffering when he had a run in with Anti Man? What happened during those encounters? He still had the condition when he fought against others, but only when he loses to WW Hulk was does he get the traction treatment. Bullsh1t.
He suffers Agoraphobia everyday, only somedays it isn't as prevalent. Given that you don't have Agoraphobia you obviously don't understand.
I go days refusing to get out of bed because I feel worried but other days I get up bright and early ready to tackle the day head first.
Don't have a hissy fit.
You said this.
but only when he loses to WW Hulk was does he get the traction treatment. Bullsh1t.
Which is wrong in a multitude of ways. You should calm down and try to form a reasonable argument before running your mouth off.
It's kind of funny how you say that you have the same condition that Enzeru said that they had. Very curious.
It's not limited to some days by the way, it's a moment to moment thing. One moment he could be hampered while the next he is not. it pretty much like being angry, and then your wife comes in and brightens your day by giving you the goodies. This does not mean that in an hour from that point, that you would not or could not become angry again. This is a mental condition, not a broken arm. Both can both stricken you, while only one can be dispersed by a change of mind.
My evidence is as I just told you. It is a mental condition. He was messed up before Tony spoke to him, and then Tony helped him get past his temporary condition. He then took flight, and with a smile engaged with the Hulk, he then shows significant evidence that he was not suffering at that moment from his mental disease when he spoke of how great it finally felt to really let go.
They were both hampered by mental conditions. The Hulk was suffering from an enraged induced form of depression, which affected him inside, and made him lash out on those he accused of making choices for him, and then taking them away in the form of the happiness that he gained on Sakaar only to turn around and lose.
He held back the entire time, or there wouldn't have even been a Sentry fight, he would have landed without a word, and killed everyone on Earth capable of being killed by destroying the entire planet.
So you assume that I have no knowledge of mental disorders? Let's not go to that place okay. A person does not have to suffer from mental disorders to understand what they are, and what they do to people. I've been telling you all along what would have happened if bob's situation was as severe as you are claiming. He would have been paralyzed, instead of flying off to do battle with the Hulk with a smile on his face.
Like I said, you want to make excuses for his inability to disassemble the Hulk like he did to Terrax, while not realizing that this version of the hulk would have crushed Terrax just as easily.
