He can't just keep dodging them and hope to stay on the offensive. Kun's display of blast and scream is above anything Dooku has done force wise. His other accomplishments also surpass him but you won't take it seriously since he didnt apply them in combat.
Also you use him feeding on the power of Luke's students but it shows how capable he is in the force.
Originally posted by Sinious
He can't just keep dodging them and hope to stay on the offensive. Kun's display of blast and scream is above anything Dooku has done force wise. His other accomplishments also surpass him but you won't take it seriously since he didnt apply them in combat.Also you use him feeding on the power of Luke's students but it shows how capable he is in the force.
He has very limited knowledge on ancient sith sorcery
In what way? As a member of the Banite lineage, he has one of the greatest wealths of Sith knowledge in the mythos, including the holocron of Darth Andeddu.
Just because he himself doesn't have a talent for such skills, much like Bane, that doesn't mean he doesn't have working knowledge of it.
and Kun can apply it in combat excellently.
It's really difficult to say how well Exar Kun's sorcery would apply in a one on one battle, many of his greatest talents aren't applicable. Some examples:
-His mind-dominating spells, which both seemingly require preparation, and demonstrably have little effect on a honed Force User.
-Powers like Dark Side Tendrils, which in all media we've seen them appear in require a nexus of Dark Side energy to properly apply.
-All of his penchants as an Alchemist--One of his more dangerous traits was his enhancement and influence over dangerous Sithspawn like Massassi and Terentateks, which are not present in such a battle.
Exar Kun does still have dangerous powers to put into play, inclusive of powerful telekinetic application and Force Lightning--But in both cases Tyranus is even greater. He does have the ability to conjure blasts of pure Dark Side energy, but their destructive potential outside of the Yavin IV Temples is difficult to measure. Regardless, a notable trait about Exar Kun is his tendency not to rely on his Force Powers, and instead prefers the art of lightsaber to lightsaber dueling--A contest I don't think he could win when faced with one of the most skilled duelists we've seen to date.
Everything considered, I'd say it's very possible that Exar Kun could have the dominant edge over Tyranus considering he is certainly the more powerful and has the wider range of talents, but much of what we've seen from him is at best only arguably applicable in a neutral, one on one confrontation.
Originally posted by Sinious
He can't just keep dodging them and hope to stay on the offensive. Kun's display of blast and scream is above anything Dooku has done force wise. His other accomplishments also surpass him but you won't take it seriously since he didnt apply them in combat.Also you use him feeding on the power of Luke's students but it shows how capable he is in the force.
IIRC that wasnt a force scream so much as a TP feat when he contacted Vodo. I could be wrong on that though
When Kun fell to the Dark-side it was felt by Vodo and the Jedi around him, I don't think he actually let out a force scream that was felt by the Jedi across the Galaxy. Then again I need to re-read that arc, I mostly remember everything from the Sith War since I own that part of the storyline and Kun didn't do anything that impressed me, Ulic did stuff that was more impressive. Guess since he's the apprentice he can be power-scaled and applied to Kun though.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
In what way? As a member of the Banite lineage, he has one of the greatest wealths of Sith knowledge in the mythos, including the holocron of Darth Andeddu.Just because he himself doesn't have a talent for such skills, much like Bane, that doesn't mean he doesn't have working knowledge of it.
I don't know the details of how much knowledge Sidious actually shared with him but I know that ancient sith sorcery is trickier than what Dooku has ever put up with. He will be facing unfamiliar tactics where Dooku has nothing on his hand to surprise Kun. Perhaps this wouldn't matter against Yoda as he is considerably more powerful but Dooku won't be so invulnerable.
Bane is much more powerful than Dooku though.
It's really difficult to say how well Exar Kun's sorcery would apply in a one on one battle, many of his greatest talents aren't applicable. Some examples:-His mind-dominating spells, which both seemingly require preparation, and demonstrably have little effect on a honed Force User.
-Powers like Dark Side Tendrils, which in all media we've seen them appear in require a nexus of Dark Side energy to properly apply.
-All of his penchants as an Alchemist--One of his more dangerous traits was his enhancement and influence over dangerous Sithspawn like Massassi and Terentateks, which are not present in such a battle.
Exar Kun does still have dangerous powers to put into play, inclusive of powerful telekinetic application and Force Lightning--But in both cases Tyranus is even greater. He does have the ability to conjure blasts of pure Dark Side energy, but their destructive potential outside of the Yavin IV Temples is difficult to measure.
I understand your point. Its a solid one and its tricky for everyone to measure how capable Kun actually is. His TOTJ mind-domination isnt gonna help him here though I'm not sure if its impossible for him to apply his skills in JA here. I really have to check more detailedly.
Has Dooku ever used lightning against an opponent who is his equal or superior while in combat? Since Vitiate not using his best feats all the time is used against him, I don't see why him not using his best feats against Anakin shouldn't matter and even if he uses them, its all up to how much of his powers can Kun use in this combat. Perhaps its up to a little speculation.
Regardless, a notable trait about Exar Kun is his tendency not to rely on his Force Powers, and instead prefers the art of lightsaber to lightsaber dueling--A contest I don't think he could win when faced with one of the most skilled duelists we've seen to date.
Which suggests his high capability in dueling don't you think? Considering he never had trouble cause he relied on his saber skills. If he sees that Dooku has the upper hand, he can always summon force attacks too.
Everything considered, I'd say it's very possible that Exar Kun could have the dominant edge over Tyranus considering he is certainly the more powerful and has the wider range of talents, but much of what we've seen from him is at best only arguably applicable in a neutral, one on one confrontation.
And I don't think it would be an easy fight for either of them yet believe Kun is very well capable of using his abilities since no specific information is stated against it.