Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yes.First time, he succeeded. It became immune much later.
Goober doesn't know his Cap, smh.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Magneto being able to move Caps shield doesn't neccesarily mean somebody else can use magnets to move his shield. Magneto can move all sorts of things because he can alter the magnetic fields around anything to move it. For example I think he lifted a bunch of rocks under Hercules before.
Also the shield maybe able to absorb electricity, it absorbed lightning from Thors hammer.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I was so pissed about that... I already had thousands of scans set aside for that thread when the external died. I thought about starting over from scratch but I was honestly already getting sick of reading Cap comics when it happened... that f*cker has SO many more appearances than I realized when I first started it. I knew going in there was a lot, but I was reading them for several hours a day for well over a month. I got to the point that I was just skimming for feats towards the end so I just wasn't up to going all the way back to the 40s again.
I hear ya. One can eventually get sick of it, yes.
You got me wrong, though. I was saying the shield was shown as being immune in X-Men vs. Avengers, not AvX. Two different comics.
And yeah, tech and image hosting sites die a lot, that's why you always need more backups. Virtual drives, for example.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I hear ya. One can eventually get sick of it, yes.You got me wrong, though. I was saying the shield was shown as being immune in X-Men vs. Avengers, not AvX. Two different comics.
And yeah, tech and image hosting sites die a lot, that's why you always need more backups. Virtual drives, for example.
Originally posted by Deadline
Magneto being able to move Caps shield doesn't neccesarily mean somebody else can use magnets to move his shield. Magneto can move all sorts of things because he can alter the magnetic fields around anything to move it. For example I think he lifted a bunch of rocks under Hercules before.Also the shield maybe able to absorb electricity, it absorbed lightning from Thors hammer.
But as you said, he would hold on to it.
My point was that Bats could cover his tracks. Use his sneakiness. And sneak attack Cap with something like his grapnel line. I haven't seen anything saying he can dodge anything when blinded (Alberto's only 'proof' was using Ultimate Cap, lol, and a random mook clubbing Cap).
Then when Cap is immobilised, either win (due to incapacitation) or continue with his toys.
Originally posted by leonidas
the magneto thing has always been a bit confusing. he def couldn't affect it early on, but in an early avengers he did affect. then later on again (new mutants) he was shown unable to control it again.i think it really comes down to writer's choice. /shrug
Do you have the New Mutants scan?
Originally posted by leonidas
the magneto thing has always been a bit confusing. he def couldn't affect it early on, but in an early avengers he did affect. then later on again (new mutants) he was shown unable to control it again.i think it really comes down to writer's choice. /shrug
This one:
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I do know a BIT about Cap 👆
Originally posted by darthgoober
Oh you mean the one from the 80s? That makes sense. At this point I remember more about what I was thinking about the stuff I was reading than I do the stuff itself. My brain was basically fried by the time everything f*cked up.
The one from 1987, yes. Very good read, btw (unlike AvX, which resulted in embarrassing the shit out of mutants and little more).
edit: DS beat me to it.
This was my quote, btw:
That's assuming the shield is thrown. If it is NOT thrown, then he just gets grapple lined up. He can't dodge the cable, as he cannot see where it is coming from, thanks to the smoke etc (as you have provided ZERO scans of Cap doing so).
As Deadline posits, the master strategist will see that Batman has a utility belt, so will assume he has toys with him - and therefore, would not throw his shield.
Batman will try batarangs, and they will 'CLAANNG' off his shield. The World's Greatest Detective will...deduce its metal. Attempt magnets. Fail/Pass.
If Pass, then Cap has no shield.
Smoke/Flashbangs, Grapnel/Nets/Foam/Ice. Batman wins.
If Fail, Smoke/Flashbangs, Grapnel/Nets/Foam/Ice. Batman wins.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
the master strategist will see that Batman has a utility belt, so will assume he has toys with him
Big ass belts with dozens of pockets in Marvel are quite common, yet they're just for show.
Steve needs to guess right from the start that Batsie is not like the guys he worked with or fought against.
However I did state that if he did throw it it would be for a very good reason in order to set Bats up for something decisive. I'm not ruling out the possibility of him throwing it completely, but yeah I think he'll hold onto it.
When Cap fought Bullseye he held onto his shield, obvoulsy because Bullseye had the range advantage it made no sense to throw the shield at him.
By the way he doesn't even need to see the ultility belt, the armoured cowl is enough. Or you know he's never seen this guy before, Cap is obviously going to wonder if he has weapons.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Big ass belts with dozens of pockets in Marvel are quite common, yet they're just for show.Steve needs to guess right from the start that Batsie is not like the guys he worked with or fought against.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Not really, as soon as Bats actually pulled something like a batarang out of one of the pouches he'd know Bat's pouches were functional. He's not going to open against an unknown opponent by going all out offensively, Cap's more of a defensive fighter(thus, the shield). That's not to say that he'd go the whole match without throwing it at some point, but I doubt he'd risk it until he gets some kind of sense of his opponent. It might be different if they were in an enclosed space where the shield could pinball back to him, but if they're standing on the street and there's nothing behind Bats for the shield to ricochet off of why would he risk tossing it? After all, if he did so and Bats dodged, the shield would end up a couple of blocks away.
Exactly.
Yeah....however, my tactic (which isn't OOC) is that Batman will use stealth and sneakiness.
Albert (and maybe Deadline?) believe that Batman will fight man to man, face to face, with honour. Keep it up close and personal.
I'm NOT, btw, saying that Batman will unload his explosives and lethal ordnance on Cap. That's the kind of tactic Alberto would argue - but Batman doesn't kill unknown opponents.
Nor am I saying he attaches rockets to the shield and BFRs it:
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Or say hey, he shapeshifts and disguises himself as a homeless guy or something:
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I mean, yeah, I could. But I'm saying, there are so many options because Batman has so much ridiculous tech.
