Originally posted by AncientPower
Can't be very large if Traya lost despite having every advantage in the book.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Sion couldn't beat Traya at full strength because she is canonically more powerful than him and the Exile.
Full strength is using a vibroblade when Kreia at endgame used three lightsabers with the force? Okay.
'Any High Council Member' would've turned to the Dark Side the moment they got close to the Trayus Academy.
Speculative and complete hyperbole. Just because Atton was losing his mind doesn't mean a High Council member would go dark side immediately going to the Academy. The Disciple was doing just fine.
I see you are forgetting the part where the Triumvirate almost completely wiped out the entire Order.
Uhm because as the loading screens say multiple times was because the Jedi order was extremely weakened after the Jedi Civil War.
The strongest that survived this weakened Order were mostly summoned to Katarr which was force eaten which effectively killed off the Order. Without the force nom, none of the three would be able to produce a feat like that. The force drain is the only reason why the Triumvirate is a threat.
I suggest you stop the lowballing and so some actual research.
Calling me out when you act like you never played the game before or have the reading skills to be able to understand the loading screens and whatnot. lawl.
Traya has a lot more than giga-drain to go on but couldn't defeat her.
Traya was easily quick enough in combat to dodge the attacks of trained Jedi Knights on the spot without a weapon herself(though that is cut content).
Also, Traya only used telekinetic lightsaber combat after losing the first engagement.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Traya has a lot more than giga-drain to go on but couldn't defeat her.Traya was easily quick enough in combat to dodge the attacks of trained Jedi Knights on the spot without a weapon herself(though that is cut content).
Also, Traya only used telekinetic lightsaber combat after losing the first engagement.
Non of that changes the fact that Meetra is more physically fit for saber combat.
If Luke could beat Abeloth or Kenobi - Anakin despite huge power gap, nothing surprising in Meetra beating Traya. Power is only one of many factors.
Originally posted by Based
Full strength is using a vibroblade when Kreia at endgame used three lightsabers with the force? Okay.Speculative and complete hyperbole. Just because Atton was losing his mind doesn't mean a High Council member would go dark side immediately going to the Academy. The Disciple was doing just fine.
Uhm because as the loading screens say multiple times was because the Jedi order was extremely weakened after the Jedi Civil War.
The strongest that survived this weakened Order were mostly summoned to Katarr which was force eaten which effectively killed off the Order. Without the force nom, none of the three would be able to produce a feat like that. The force drain is the only reason why the Triumvirate is a threat.
Calling me out when you act like you never played the game before or have the reading skills to be able to understand the loading screens and whatnot. lawl.
All Jedi who went to the planet were either driven insane, husked by the wound in the force, corrupted by the Dark Side or were protected by special circumstances, in which the disciples of Surik were almost certainly covered by.
As was the Sith Order, when Revan went to Korriban and wiped out the remnants of the Sith Academy there.
Both the Jedi and the Sith Orders of the Dark Wars were very weakened versions of their predecessors, but the Triumvirate all but wiped out the hundred or so Jedi left.
Saying any High Council member could accomplish what the Exile accomplished is a laughable uneducated statement if I ever heard one.
I actually have all the KotOR related content, including the KotOR CG, the Betrayal of Darth Revan, the prima guides, the comic series and more...
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Or maybe there's just a sizable disparity between Traya and she.
Clearly not.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Except I don't think Traya ever really intended to kill Surik. The encyclopedic medium outright confirms Traya is the stronger!
Thats nice. Too bad this was directly addressed and mythbusted in the fight itself. That Traya was more powerful doesn't mean that the Exile didn't beat her fair and square.
Originally posted by appletonia
KOTOR 2 Surik > KOTOR 1 Revan
I wouldn't say KoTOR 2 Surik > KoTOR Revan. She's impressive no doubt but they are more less equal. But that's just my opinion.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Slaughtering the Malachor academy, defeating Sion a half dozen times and then defeating Traya. All in a powerful nexus.
She's also beaten a number of Storm beasts AND the greater storm beast on Malachor too(one of the storm beats was able to kill Colonel Tobin with a single swipe). Beaten veteran and skilled young mandalorians in the battle circle(without using the force or a lightsaber, she had to duel them with a vibroblade and with her Martial arts), defeated 5 echani warriors at the same time and while she was alone. I'm sure there's more, but it's been a while since i played KoTOR 2.
EDIT. Lol sinny, i can't believe you did twice now xD
Originally posted by Sinious
Can you point me to that cut content?
watch?v=BgoMbKd7sq8
*Edit* I'm not sure if he was referring to this or something else, i'm searching for that cut-content either way.
Originally posted by Nephthys
She was likely unconsciously using her force bonding technique to rip the knowledge of the forms out of the minds of the Jedi Masters, similar to how Revan ripped the Rakatan language from their minds.
Not only that, but she can learn an ability quite easily, when it would take masters years to fully learn.
"You are strong indeed... what you heard were surface thoughts only, but it is something that masters have trained for for years and never learned."
- Kreia
And just by simply observing Kavar using the form(in the LS Canon path) He says she "masters" the form.
"Excellent! I'm impressed with how quickly you've mastered this form. I always knew you were gifted."
- Kavar
Got love that ability. 😄
Originally posted by Nephthys
Slaughtering the Malachor academy, defeating Sion a half dozen times and then defeating Traya. All in a powerful nexus.