Satele Shan vs The Exile

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Not sure how powerful Satele is, so I won't comment on who would win.

But the Exile >= Revan easily.

Originally posted by red8
Not sure how powerful Satele is, so I won't comment on who would win.

But the Exile >= Revan easily.

No, what have you done you fool! You're comment will draw him here and he will ..

*shudders*

List all of Revan's feats and accolades.

lol dumb jokes aside. I'm curious as to what you mean by "The Exile >= Revan"

Like which incarnation of Revan would you say she's close to? Mando Revan? Darth Revan? KoTOR/Redeemed Revan or Reborn Revan?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66

image doesn't work boo 😐

Your lack of computer speed is disturbing.

Originally posted by red8
Not sure how powerful Satele is, so I won't comment on who would win.

But the Exile >= Revan easily.


Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Revan can't even beat Satele

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Your lack of computer speed is disturbing.

😆

You're arrogance blinds you to the true power of a PC

Says the one who doesn't know how to work a computer. 😉

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Says the one who doesn't know how to work a computer. 😉

It was only one time...ish, why must this haunt me!

(lol i am, of course kidding with my reaction Ant) 😄

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Except she said she wasn't going to help Revan and that he didn't need her.

False. Traya trained all the Jedi Revan brought to the academy and when the Sith Empire fell, she brought together the remnants.

Because why? Unlike Malachor which is constantly draining you and only has an implied amp, the Star Forge is said to definitely hold the best Sith in the known galaxy and has armies that were above all other Jedi, all this with a guaranteed amp.

I watched a let's play and all she refers to is actually fighting Malak herself.

Actually Kreia only found the Trayus Academy after she was exiled from the Jedi Order and sought answers, she found the Academy, which was formerly Revan's. It in-fact explicitly states that her following Revan to war was nothing but rumor.

She was in exile during the Jedi Civil War and only after when she found Malachor V did she turn to the Dark Side.

Malachor V's nexus is one of the strongest of all time, that is canon.

Originally posted by AncientPower
I watched a let's play and all she refers to is actually fighting Malak herself.

She said Revan wouldn't need her to fight Malak. Period. She said that his strength was enough to face any Sith. Obviously that's not true and it's her very biased opinion, but if she intended on amping him, she'd say so, and they'd, Malak and Revan, know. All statements made in game point towards Bastila helping the fleet, not anyone else.

Actually Kreia only found the Trayus Academy after she was exiled from the Jedi Order and sought answers, she found the Academy, which was formerly Revan's. It in-fact explicitly states that her following Revan to war was nothing but rumor.

She was exiled before the Mandalorian Wars and was thought to have died during Malachor V/the War depending on if you believe she's Arren Kae. 😬

She was in exile during the Jedi Civil War and only after when she found Malachor V did she turn to the Dark Side.

100% not true statement. She actually "turned to the Dark Side" before the Mandalorian Wars even began and influenced Revan's fall during the War due to her initial teachings.

Malachor V's nexus is one of the strongest of all time, that is canon.


Way to ignore the point. It's also a Wound in the Force that constantly drains anyone who's on it. How do you think the Assassin's learned it in the first place? Or are you one of those who doesn't think they learned a different type of drain?

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
100% not true statement. She actually "turned to the Dark Side" before the Mandalorian Wars even began and influenced Revan's fall during the War due to her initial teachings.

IIRC, that was just the Council being a bunch of dipshits.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
She said Revan wouldn't need her to fight Malak. Period. She said that his strength was enough to face any Sith. Obviously that's not true and it's her very biased opinion, but if she intended on amping him, she'd say so, and they'd, Malak and Revan, know. All statements made in game point towards Bastila helping the fleet, not anyone else.

She was exiled before the Mandalorian Wars and was thought to have died during Malachor V/the War depending on if you believe she's Arren Kae. 😬

100% not true statement. She actually "turned to the Dark Side" before the Mandalorian Wars even began and influenced Revan's fall during the War due to her initial teachings.

Way to ignore the point. It's also a Wound in the Force that constantly drains anyone who's on it. How do you think the Assassin's learned it in the first place? Or are you one of those who doesn't think they learned a different type of drain?


This assumes that she has the kind of control over Battle Meditation that Nomi Sunrider did, but considering it's canon that Nomi's battle meditation was unique in the history of it's use i'm inclined to believe otherwise.

Believed by the Jedi High Council you mean, whom were incorrect about almost everything.

More Jedi High Council belief, she turned AFTER Revan had already left the galaxy, it's the reason why she followed in his footsteps in the first place.

Kreia states that Nihilus and all of the assassins are using a technique that the Ancient Sith used, it can't be very different if it's been used before on a larger scale.

Originally posted by AncientPower
This assumes that she has the kind of control over Battle Meditation that Nomi Sunrider did, but considering it's canon that Nomi's battle meditation was unique in the history of it's use i'm inclined to believe otherwise.

Yeah, this statement makes no sense considering this is well after her time.

Believed by the Jedi High Council you mean, whom were incorrect about almost everything.

No, literally everyone says she was exiles BEFORE the Mandalorian Wars ended. And the Council was actually wrong about nothing, this time around, besides trying to Force Sever Surik. Seriously, saying, "The High Council is wrong therefore they don't know about themselves," is a stupid argument.

More Jedi High Council belief, she turned AFTER Revan had already left the galaxy, it's the reason why she followed in his footsteps in the first place.

What? No. They were talking about when Revan left to fight in the Mandalorian Wars by all accounts. Seriously, go play the game again or watch or whatever, but continuing to repeat the same false statement over and over again won't get you anywhere.

Kreia states that Nihilus and all of the assassins are using a technique that the Ancient Sith used, it can't be very different if it's been used before on a larger scale.

Except it was and was not used on a large scale before, based on Avellone's words, it drives you insane and forces you to uncontrollably consume.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
IIRC, that was just the Council being a bunch of dipshits.

No, well sort of. Kreia taught in an unorthodox way that clashed with the some of the Jedi ideals after the war with Exar Kun. At least the CG suggests this.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
No, well sort of. Kreia taught in an unorthodox way that clashed with the some of the Jedi ideals after the war with Exar Kun. At least the CG suggests this.

There is no proof Traya's teachings were morally wrong. All we know is that they were unorthodox, therefore the council didn't like them. With Revan turning to the Dark Side, they just pinned it all on Traya and said **** you.

Somebody doesn't necessarily have to be Dark Sided for the Council to detest them. The Council basically detests anything that is not 100% congruent with their beliefs. In Path of the Jedi, they claim that any other light side organization that is not part of the Jedi Order is, "tragically misguided" and "dangerous", and that any gray Jedi that does not fully agree or follow the Jedi Council can only be a "valued member of the Order after they have been persuaded to follow the established Hierarchy.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
There is no proof Traya's teachings were morally wrong. All we know is that they were unorthodox, therefore the council didn't like them. With Revan turning to the Dark Side, they just pinned it all on Traya and said **** you.

That's not what the CG implies. It's not like she was teaching a different version of the Jedi Code. She probably taught him the same things she taught the Exile, many of them very Sith like.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
That's not what the CG implies. It's not like she was teaching a different version of the Jedi Code. She probably taught him the same things she taught the Exile, many of them very Sith like.

Well then, if you would please share this evidence that speaks to the contrary of what I have said, then I may be persuaded to listen to you.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Your lack of computer speed is disturbing.

Doesn't work for me either. And my computer is more expensive than your house pumpkin. 😎

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Well then, if you would please share this evidence that speaks to the contrary of what I have said, then I may be persuaded to listen to you.

I'm talking about the part where it says Kreia's teaching style influenced Revan's way of thinking and aggression. These are the things that lead to Revan's fall/semi-fall during the Mandalorian Wars. It's not like his whole outlook on the galaxy radically changed during the war.