Originally posted by MF DELPH
This is the last I'm going to say on this topic as it's a red herring in regards to the actual point I was making in the first place. That being that Surfer did in fact receive a power up from Galactus, and I posted the scan to show that on panel event.Here's my first post in this silly exchange over Thanos in Annihilation:
See the underlined portion of my post. I made mention of the term "energy signature" in my initial post. You and I (primarily, you) seem to be quibbling over semantics. You think that power signature is just a matter of Surfer possessing cosmic power. I disagree with that interpretation because it's stated multiple times that only Thanos could operate the machine and that it was specifically tuned to him, so it was not simply a matter of anyone possessing cosmic power being able to operate the machine.
In the comic Moondragon is able to gleen information from Thanos's mind when he commands her to provide him with the thoughts she's taken from Annihilus:
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http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/ann_04_016_zps601a1513.jpgShe states:
"[b]You implanted a fail-safe. Only you can free Galactus
, or was that just to insure I didn't hit your "off switch" while I was in there?"to which Thanos replies:
"I am Thanos. I plan for every eventuality, however improbable."
which leads to this scene:
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http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/ann_04_027_zpsa08acc68.jpgThe sequence which contains the term you are harping on. Thanos says:
"The Fail-Safe option that will disable Galactus' bonds is keyed to my power signature."
Now, Thanos and Surfer do not have the same power signature. In this same arc Tenebrous and Aegis even made mention of it. Here they are able to tell that The Fallen One is "of Galactus" by sensing his energy:
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http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SS-3_0006_zps690e4cd6.jpgAnd here they encounter Thanos, who they initially think also serves Galactus as The Fallen One calls him master, but they (Aegis, in particular) are able to sense his connection to Mistress Death and not the Power Cosmic:
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http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SS-4_0025_zps93d872fb.jpgNow we all know that Thanos is significantly more powerful than Surfer. In the scans above Thanos was casually powering the machine with one hand and no exertion on his part. When Drax kills Thanos, Moondragon, who had just read Thanos's mind, and was with him when he was explaining how the machine is operated, states this:
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http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/ann_05_007_zpsea00d7ae.jpgThe first two pages of the four in my original post. That sequence leads to Drax breaking Surfer out of the shunt, and Drax imploring a weakened Surfer that it would take everything he's got in order to operate the machine without triggering Thanos's failsafe. In an act of desperation Surfer instantly powers up the device by channeling all of his power with both hands and freeing Galactus:
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http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/ann_05_009_zpsda89c77d.jpg^That sequence is where I'm making the claim of Surfer being able to mimic Thanos's energy output, which the machine was keyed to, and power the machine without triggering the failsafe. And this was after the power up which Galactus provided Surfer. All I was doing was pointing out the correlation between Surfer's power up from Galactus and and his later ability to output Thanos's "power level/power signature" in order to operate the machine specifically designed for only Thanos to be able to operate, as depicted and stated on panel. It's all laid bare for everyone to come to their own conclusions, but simply put, I don't agree with you and your interpretarion that it was simply a matter of possessing cosmic power. If that were the case it wouldn't have required Surfer's exertion of power, just his touch as it was depicted when Thanos was operating the machine. Surfer had to forcibly perform the feat.
I have nothing further to say on this tangent aspect of this conversation. Quip away as you will. I have zero concern.
Bottome line:
Surfer received a power up.
carver was actually right. [/B]
Good post
