Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I lol'd. If you think the Starkiller that barely holds a candle to TFUII Vader is superior to RotJ Vader in anything, we have nothing more to discuss.
This is a strawman argument that doesn't adress my point, and it's honestly getting frustrating. First of all, I never stated that Starkiller holds a candle to Vader in duelling skill, and he is in fact VASTLY below him. I said that he far outclasses Vader in POWER.
Not only that but TFU II only takes place 5 years before ROTJ, and Vader never vastly improved in power after ANH, only in skill. He certainly became more powerful by at least a moderate degree, but there is no evidence that he vastly improved in that regard.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
You're confusing the fact that Kota has done nothing with the fact that he lost. Both Force and Saber skills take parts in duels, and Kenobi has shown himself more tolerable to both than Kota ever has, were as the later got blasted around by with Lighting by a Marek that was below/at Shaak Ti level.
Kenobi was stomped more than once by Maul and Dooku. And Kota did block Lightning from Galen, who by this time, was already good enough to kill a Rancor with it. The Lightning blasted both of them back anyway. Marek didn't improve vastly in power.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Lulz, Vader uses the Force all the time. The fact that he prefers his Lightsaber doesn't mean that he won't use it in combat, and he was obviously struggling with Obi-Wan the entire duel. But I digress, Vader outclasses Kenobi in TK, sure. How does that mean Kota is on Kenobi's level?
No, he doesn't. Granted, it's not like he never uses it, his struggling against Obi-Wan in a pure duel has NOTHING to do with the fact that Vader could have stomped him at any time with the Force.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
When did I say Kenobi was at Vader's level? This is about Kenobi being better than Kota. The fact is Kota was lolstomped by Trainee Marek who is below Dooku and Maul. Kenobi may not be on Marek level, but he's above Kota.
Let's just agree to disagree.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
An actual showing that isn't in a trailer? Chocking out Sidious? Crazy Force-enhanced strength?
The showing I posted was NOT from the trailer. It was from the novel, and Plagueis only chocked Sidious when the latter was distracted.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Starkiller himself admits something, but I'm the one wanking. I guess when a character admits his own limitations compared to someone below his prime, they're wrong because they can fly outside a spaceship.
Again, Starkiller was talking about duelling skill, not power. And he DISINTEGRATED a ship, not just flew outside it.