Originally posted by Digi
Answer my questions. Even one of them. Then I'll answer yours. That, again, you already know the answer to, so why ask it? Right, so you can, what, invalidate my opinion because I'm not a Muslim? There's a logical fallacy in there somewhere, though I forget the name.At least answer Batman. I'm a nice guy, but clearly anyone who puts on a Bat suit and becomes a vigilante has a few screws loose. I don't want to see you hurt.
Sure Digi.
Originally posted by Lek Kuen
My point wasn't Isis specifically it was any such group. Or do you really thing the majority of muslims are in terrorist factions? And behead people
I do know that they have radical ideology even if they are not apart of a faction. They hide people that are radicals among themselves give them sanctuary, they treat women very bad and literally have zero respect for them.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I do know that they have radical ideology even if they are not apart of a faction. They hide people that are radicals among themselves give them sanctuary, they treat women very bad and literally have zero respect for them.
Go on tell me more about how you know anyone in my neighborhood and know what they are thinking about every subject, because you served in the army and are anything other then either a troll or a hate monger
Originally posted by Lek Kuen
Go on tell me more about how you know anyone in my neighborhood and know what they are thinking about every subject, because you served in the army and are anything other then either a troll or a hate monger
I'm literally not trolling or hating, I'm wanting to know why they treat women bad and why the radicals want to kill everyone.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I'm literally not trolling or hating, I'm wanting to know why they treat women bad and why the radicals want to kill everyone.
So are you going to tell me how you somehow know how people in my neighborhood behave and what they want to do?
How you know all the thoughts of say the population of Indonesia and the nuances of their culture?
How you know what even the people in those two nations you fought in would do if the radicals didn't have such a powerful presence there.
No one dies that muslim communities in parts of the world have problems but there is a difference discussing that and just being an idiot/bigot who wants to think anyone connected is exactly the same.
Lol, what an absolute child. Even before he decided to play the "yuh-huh, nuh-uh" game with me, not a single line I wrote was addressed. The unfortunate part is, this mentality is a big part of the problem with religious relations in the world. Lack of education is one thing; but that's not what this is. We all have access to the benefits of an advanced civilization. Yet many people are still going to approach Islam, ALL of it, with an antagonistic attitude.
Problem is, there ARE issues that need addressing in regards to Islamic relations and understanding. And, frankly, there are problems with the religion (though I level that accusation at pretty much every religion), though mostly in the radical factions. But that's not what this is an inspection of.
It doesn't matter if we get pissy at each other, TI. It's just the internet. The point is, you're never going to do anything but create defensive antagonism toward yourself with your broad negative assumptions that are only true of some people. If you really want to get answers to these things, as you say you do, and aren't just trolling, you will have to approach adherents of religion with more dignity. And if not, please just take video of the first time you ask these questions of a Muslim irl. I think I speak for the entire internet when I say I'd love to see how it goes.
Originally posted by Digi
Lol, what an absolute child. Even before he decided to play the "yuh-huh, nuh-uh" game with me, not a single line I wrote was addressed. The unfortunate part is, this mentality is a big part of the problem with religious relations in the world. Lack of education is one thing; but that's not what this is. We all have access to the benefits of an advanced civilization. Yet many people are still going to approach Islam, ALL of it, with an antagonistic attitude.Problem is, there ARE issues that need addressing in regards to Islamic relations and understanding. And, frankly, there are problems with the religion (though I level that accusation at pretty much every religion), though mostly in the radical factions. But that's not what this is an inspection of.
It doesn't matter if we get pissy at each other, TI. It's just the internet. The point is, you're never going to do anything but create defensive antagonism toward yourself with your broad negative assumptions that are only true of some people. If you really want to get answers to these things, as you say you do, and aren't just trolling, you will have to approach adherents of religion with more dignity. And if not, please just take video of the first time you ask these questions of a Muslim irl. I think I speak for the entire internet when I say I'd love to see how it goes.
Go on?
Originally posted by Lek Kuen
So are you going to tell me how you somehow know how people in my neighborhood behave and what they want to do?How you know all the thoughts of say the population of Indonesia and the nuances of their culture?
How you know what even the people in those two nations you fought in would do if the radicals didn't have such a powerful presence there.
No one dies that muslim communities in parts of the world have problems but there is a difference discussing that and just being an idiot/bigot who wants to think anyone connected is exactly the same.
Actually I have been to Indonesia, Bali in fact, very peaceful people. None violent not radical.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Go on?
Ha, nah, that post wasn't for you. You've sunk to base-level trolling now. It's amusing, if unfortunate. Amusing because it's pointless. Unfortunate because your inability to take criticism, engage others on their ideas and rebuttals, has and will doom your interactions, both on this site and elsewhere.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What I find hypocritical is all the people complaining about Time Immemorial over generalizing, while they over generalize about religious and conservative people. Defiantly a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
Interesting. In what ways specifically? I want to hear from you on this, not TI.
Originally posted by Digi
Ha, nah, that post wasn't for you. You've sunk to base-level trolling now. It's amusing, if unfortunate. Amusing because it's pointless. Unfortunate because your inability to take criticism, engage others on their ideas and rebuttals, has and will doom your interactions, both on this site and elsewhere.Interesting. In what ways specifically? I want to hear from you on this, not TI.
Digi you have not even been out of the country, to any Islamic States, what would you know about anything...ur just mad to be mad at me, get off.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Funny people bash Christianity to the point of no return, but mention anything against Islam and everyone gets riled up. I find that hilarious.
Originally posted by SamZED
People bash Islam as much as they bash Christianity if not more. Because much like Christianity it's a flawed religion. That's not what your OP was about. You made a generalized accusation towards a large group of people based on actions of a much smaller group which is no different than the stealing example i've mentioned. It's one thing to point out stupid things in religious scriptures or call out radicals and a whole different thing when it's an excuse for the old boring blind hatred towards a large specific group of people. Religious, ethnic etc.
I find that the smaller group of radicals is more radical then any smaller group of radical christians today...yes? Violence, death, destruction, beheadings, sexual mutilations.
Originally posted by Digi
..Interesting. In what ways specifically? I want to hear from you on this, not TI.
Originally posted by Digi
Your particular sect of Buddhism seems abnormally rational in its approach, even for an overarching religion (Buddhism in general) that tends to eschew blind faith as a valid reason...
You are the one who couldn't resist insulting my religion while complementing me. That shows your over generalization and prejudice toward religion.
BTW you are wrong.
You are such a hypocrite.
Originally posted by Time ImmemorialI especially like the word "literally" in this yet another baseless generalized claim. It's funny because I personally know dozens of Muslim families. At no point did any of the husbands attempt to behead his wife or treated her with disrespect. No more than your average western couple.
I do know that they have radical ideology even if they are not apart of a faction. They hide people that are radicals among themselves give them sanctuary, they treat women very bad and literally have zero respect for them.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Actually I have been to Indonesia, Bali in fact, very peaceful people. None violent not radical.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Indonesia
Radicals... radicals everywhere!
Originally posted by Time ImmemorialYou can address that question to Batman on the previous page. I swear at this point you might as well be running down the street screaming "I hate rag-heads", at least that'd be honest.
I find that the smaller group of radicals is more radical then any smaller group of radical christians today...yes? Violence, death, destruction, beheadings, sexual mutilations.