Originally posted by Marco1907Anakin caught a speeder with one hand while falling at approximately 99% terminal velocity (around 122 mph) in ATOC. Unless in the novel it mentions him using the force to slow his fall, this feat is far superior to lifting a guy with one hand.
No, lifting Obi-Wan Kenobi with one hand exceeds any feat of Emokin's... Since he failed to dominate same Kenobi via physical.
The fact that this is debated actually is something that baffles me. It pretty clear that Vader is the strongest of the three apprentices. In lightsaber skill they are all pretty around the same level but in the Force, Vader trumps them all. His TK is some of the best in the universe, Vader can crush starfighter with ease and force starfighters to crash into each other. He can Force choke people from across the galaxy via holograms (something far beyond the capabilities of either of the other two)
Also he has a ton of accolaydes that establish him as unnaturally strong in the force. I believe I read on recently that went something like this
"He was like an inevitability in the Force." (not the exact quote but I can fish it out if someone wants the real one)
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Nah. An unamped Darth Baras has done this. I doubt it's beyond Maul and Dooku's capabilities, much less far beyond.
Mind blank.
Much mind Blank, very Sad....
Haven't we seen Dooku do this in TCW? I don't know why I'm asking this, I just have this feeling we have...
Originally posted by WildBantha88
The fact that this is debated actually is something that baffles me. It pretty clear that Vader is the strongest of the three apprentices. In lightsaber skill they are all pretty around the same level but in the Force, Vader trumps them all. His TK is some of the best in the universe, Vader can crush starfighter with ease and force starfighters to crash into each other. He can Force choke people from across the galaxy via holograms (something far beyond the capabilities of either of the other two)Also he has a ton of accolaydes that establish him as unnaturally strong in the force. I believe I read on recently that went something like this
"He was like an inevitability in the Force." (not the exact quote but I can fish it out if someone wants the real one)
Granted Vader would win, he isn't going to wreck Dooku. The Count is a better duellist, faster (not by much, though), and shouldn't be far below in power, having stomped someone like Ventress, who is a very powerful Dark Jedi.
Just to ask, when did Vader force starfighters to crash into each other? And I doubt chocking someone from across the galaxy is that impressive, and beyond Maul/Dooku's powers, unless he did this to a Sith/Jedi.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
How is the Count faster than Vader? They're about the same speed, honestly.
See this: http://www.comicvine.com/profile/shootingnova/blog/count-dooku-darth-tyranus-respect-thread/95276/
Nuff said.
I'm just gonna address a few things as to how they stack up IMO.
In a lightsaber duel, Dooku's primary form is Makashi, and Vader's primary form is Djem So. Vader also has some training/expertise in Makashi that he incorporates in his fighting style, and he has on a suit of armor that can tank light blows from a lightsaber. I really don't think Dooku's strikes are going to be the end of Vader given that Vader incorporates a certain degree of precision himself, and has the armor to tank light blows, while Makashi doesn't favor kinetic strikes. Given that Dooku has been overpowered by superior strength before, and that Vader is really ****ing strong, I'd say Vader's power blows would pose a substantial threat here. Really as far as the way they stack up against each other in a duel, it seems like Vader poses the bigger threat.
As far as a clash of force powers goes, Vader has the superior telekinetic power. The main edge people are attributing to Dooku is his lightning. What is being forgotten here is that Vader can block Dooku's lightning with a lightsaber, and that the only two people to overpower Vader with lightning had significantly stronger lightning than Dooku's.
Dooku puts up a fight, but Vader would beat him.