😂 it's always about kris.....
when i said tie-ins suck, i meant that i hate it when you are FORCED to buy tie ins to understand the main thread, or when they dilute the main thread. avx tie ins were horrid. most i really dislike. i much prefer a series that is self contained or only has very minimal tie ins.
Originally posted by leonidas9-10 months ago is really just looking at Hickman's Avengers run. During his FF run, it seemed like Adult Franklin and Black Bolt began sensing the end of everything when the Inhumans were warring with the Kree. Indeed, that battle only ceased when Hala's sun began dying prematurely out of the blue. Which mirrors the current situation of stars blinking out across the universe.
ok, i thought that was the case. the galactus seed as a theory then doesn't seem to fit the timeline either. i've seen other theories about alal--someone said an alt valeria? maybe council of dooms? i for one don't really have clue... who you think alal will be odg? galan, what's your best guess?
Seed Being makes most sense. The chronological order of things stumbled me a bit at first too, but Hickman has said that time isn't linear during Cap's time traveling. And that's proven true as Living Tribunal was found dead on the Moon before Tony and Reed even contacted Pym to go on his journey where he witnessed LT's actual death.
I don't think it's Adult Valeria or Ult. Reed though. Trying not to think about it too much. Just trying to enjoy the story.
Originally posted by leonidas
😂 it's always about kris.....when i said tie-ins suck, i meant that i hate it when you are FORCED to buy tie ins to understand the main thread, or when they dilute the main thread. avx tie ins were horrid. most i really dislike. i much prefer a series that is self contained or only has very minimal tie ins.
I only followed the VS book for AvX and didn't feel it made the event worst, imo.
Originally posted by ODG
9-10 months ago is really just looking at Hickman's Avengers run. During his FF run, it seemed like Adult Franklin and Black Bolt began sensing the end of everything when the Inhumans were warring with the Kree. Indeed, that battle only ceased when Hala's sun began dying prematurely out of the blue. Which mirrors the current situation of stars blinking out across the universe.Seed Being makes most sense. The chronological order of things stumbled me a bit at first too, but Hickman has said that time isn't linear during Cap's time traveling. And that's proven true as Living Tribunal was found dead on the Moon before Tony and Reed even contacted Pym to go on his journey where he witnessed LT's actual death.
I don't think it's Adult Valeria or Ult. Reed though. Trying not to think about it too much. Just trying to enjoy the story.
Yes, this is why I assume that the Seed Being was born in another timeline and the cataclysm still happened. We'll have to wait and see, personally I'm not terribly invested in the secret/guessing part of it.
Originally posted by Kubik
The Beyonder was a narcissistic megalomaniacal psychopathic tyrant and bully who treated everybody else like playthings to dominate or destroy at his whim. I even thought that his Kosmos/Maker incarnation was more likeable.
He was just boring.
Ah, you're a sock. Nvm then.
Originally posted by Kubik
No, I'm not a sock. I'm just new. And if you read the Chris Claremont X-Men stories he starred in, it was made clear that he saw everybody else as his own personal playthings that he could brainwash to worship him, or destroy just because they didn't play his game as he wanted.
He was certainly child-like, but there's nothing "psychopathic" about him.
It'd be pointless to try and attribute these things to the beyonder, when he was so literally beyond everyone.
I mean, do you know what megalomania is? How would that apply to him? He could recreate the universe a thousand times over.
He is representative of the human narcissistic god-complex that is defining for psychopaths alongside the tendency to see everybody else as playthings without inherent value, to manipulate or eventually destroy. So yes, by human terms, which are the standards that he spawned from, I stand by that he did qualify for those definitions, unless we ascribe to a might makes right ideology. We can agree to disagree, but I genuinely perceive him this way.
Originally posted by Kubik
He is representative of the human narcissistic god-complex that is defining for psychopaths alongside the tendency to see everybody else as playthings without inherent value, to manipulate or eventually destroy. So yes, by human terms, which are the standards that he spawned from, I stand by that he did qualify for those definitions, unless we ascribe to a might makes right ideology. We can agree to disagree, but I genuinely perceive him this way.
He was god in his surroundings.
To him there's no clear cut boundary between life or death.
There's nothing he can do that he can't undo (though I suppose that wasn't entirely true).
Beyonder was aware of his status as a creature with no equal. There's nothing wrong with that. Do you feel about the water particles when you're having a bath? Or the microorganism that live in the dirt you tread on? Try to be sensible with the scale here. There's no human being that comes even remotely close to him, so it's pointless to try and force human definitions on him.
How did he qualify for megalomania? There were no fantasies involved in this. Everything he wanted was entirely within his capabilities.
The point is that he was created as an expression of human creativity grounded in human experience, perception, and emotion in exactly the same manner that many psychopaths perceive the world around them. He simply happened to be a psychopath with enormous power to manifest his twisted desires for domination and genocide on the world around him, but he is nevertheless a fictional expression of the human mind. A being who truly were of that nature would not even notice beings at human level, and could easily destroy them by accident, which is not morally repugnant, just unfortunate, but he regularly lived among and interacted with them.
You are approaching a common dangerously moral relativistic might makes right perspective regarding these types of characters that is very convenient to disregard the sanctity of sentient life if somebody possesses sufficient amounts of power, which the Beyonder recurrently used with absolutely no responsibility regarding others whatsoever, which is where the god-complex comes in.
It is exactly why these types of characters tend to be so dangerously appealing to some people. (Not intended as yourself, but rather the concept itself, so don't worry) They can validate their inner megalomaniacal psychopathic urges to see everybody else as infinitely inferior worthless playthings by using exactly the same kind of rationale that you just cited.
Again, it seems like both of us have our minds set, so we should probably agree to disagree.