New Avengers #33 was wrapped up beautifully.
Answered just enough questions to tie it all together.
I just don't understand what the phuck is happening in Avengers #44. Are they directly tying it into Secret War then...
I was hoping we'd get some big reveal with Ultimate Reed or that 616 Reed would do something, but in the end it was all Doom. We didn't get to know who the Black Swans were either, but I assume they're just alternate Sues.
Originally posted by krisblaze
New Avengers #33 was wrapped up beautifully.Answered just enough questions to tie it all together.
I just don't understand what the phuck is happening in Avengers #44. Are they directly tying it into Secret War then...
I was hoping we'd get some big reveal with Ultimate Reed or that 616 Reed would do something, but in the end it was all Doom. We didn't get to know who the Black Swans were either, but I assume they're just alternate Sues.
Ultimate Reed is in the preview for Secret Wars #1 (which takes place just as the battle takes place). He's on the bottom right of the 3rd panel.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Full coloured preview for Secret Wars #1. Looks good.
So I think you'll see something yet.
(although I may have misread your point).
Not sure why people think it was necessarily a 'time bomb' or w/e..?
Doom only referred to time as the Beyonders' 'weakness', because they are linear--confined to the here and now. They cannot exist in any other point in time except the present. This made it possible for Doom to travel back in time with Owen, and secretly construct a potential means to the Beyonders' demise, without having to worry about them attempting to stop him.
Time itself does not literally weaken Beyonders, though... I think some people may have taken Doom's statement out of context.
Originally posted by BeyonderGod
So Dr.Doom did a time bomb and killed them....or created a time laps?
It's still a stupid weakness.
Originally posted by BeyonderGod
And they take alien forms when combating Cosmic Entities but in robotic form lose to beings like Thor?
Either way, how did Ex Nihilo, Abyss and Star Brand kill the Beyonders? Ex Nihlio and Abyss were gardeners and clearly didn't have any time-related powers.
And Star Brand got his power from the Superflow, so he shouldn't be able to manipulate time either.
I believe that was hyperbole on Doom's part(Doomperbole.)
The bomb didn't literally erase the Beyonders OR the multitude of universes it destroyed from history, because even after the 'detonation', the other heroes were still very much aware of the Beyonders, as well as the universes that were destroyed--which means the aforementioned still existed in history.
Originally posted by Galan007
...Except it didn't.The bomb didn't literally erase the Beyonders OR the multitude of universes it destroyed from history, because the other heroes were still very much aware of their existence afterward--which means the Beyonders and said universes still existed in history.
But it's clear from Dr. Doom's narrative that the bomb was intended to erase the Beyonders from history hence time-bomb.
That's how I read it the first time, and I'm sure there are millions of other interpretations to be made. But if you're looking for hard evidence for that it was a time-bomb, then no, I don't have that.
Either way, we can also gather from Dr. Doom's narration "I dare to throw it back in your face," that it may refer to the Molecule Men's stored energy. It's a bit of a long-shot and doesn't contradict or reinforce any of my speculations.
Originally posted by AstnerThis is what I think the bomb was. Makes the most sense.
Either way, we can also gather from Dr. Doom's narration "I dare to [b]throw it back in your face," that it may refer to the Molecule Men's stored energy. [/B]
Originally posted by AstnerThere were hundreds of thousands of universes. Only 12(or so) remained in the wake of Doom's bomb. Natural incursions destroyed the rest, leaving only the final 2.
Anyway, how did the two dozen universes get reduced to two? Was that specified in Avengers #44?
