New 'Secret Wars' is Marvel Comics' major event of 2015

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Also Beyonder was never an Inhuman. He was just messing with everyone.

One of the things Doom and Strange are sure to be discussing is how to deal with the threat of the alien race known as the Beyonders who are behind the Incursions and the impending Multiverse collapse. There's been continuity in recent years that linked the Beyonders to the Inhumans, but there's also been some previous stories that established them as this omnipotent race. It looks like you're leaning toward the race of all-powerful beings approach, correct?

Early on I talked with Brevoort about this and my understanding is that the editorial position regarding the "New Avengers: Illuminati" [miniseries] Bendis wrote was that it was all a construct of that Beyonder. It was all unreliable narrator stuff and he wasn't Inhuman. I think that's clearly the way we've gone, but I don't know that Marvel would think they've ever moved off this path. It was just Beyonder shenanigans.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/hickman-sets-the-stage-for-his-avengers-finale-marvels-secret-wars-part-1

I been knew the whole Beyonder "Inhuman Mutant" was just a troll lol but if Cosmic Cubes/Inhumans are somewhat connected then I would love to read a good explanation.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Also Beyonder was never an Inhuman. He was just messing with everyone.
Yeah, the general overtones of Illuminati #3 alluded to him f*cking around with everyone for the lulz. Nice to have some definitive clarification, though. 👆

Another variant, but with the Beyonder on it.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, the general overtones of Illuminati #3 alluded to him f*cking around with everyone for the lulz. Nice to have some definitive clarification, though. 👆

No, phuck clarifications, I want to have dense people being a fail at reading.

Full coloured preview for Secret Wars #1. Looks good.

When is Issue 33?....

Overall, New Avengers #33 was a fantastic story. Hickman did a great job tidying up most of the loose ends that still remained, imo. 👆

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Here's some additional info pertaining to the upcoming Secret Wars event, from Marvel's New York Bulletin:

Urgh so much exposition to add to the Molecule Man respect thread after today.

But it was nice to finally learn what caused the incursions and the mass detonation of all those universes at once.

Although I do wonder

Spoiler:
what Doom's weapon actually was?

Yep, Now we have the Secret wars to find out things.

Avengers #44 seems look as a build-up to that as a prologue. The ending of it was kinda sad tho.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Although I do wonder
Spoiler:
what Doom's weapon actually was?
Just seemed like a massive/abstract bomb, imo. That's likely why hundredS of thousandS of universeS were simultaneously destroyed as a result of its detonation.

Originally posted by Galan007
Just seemed like a massive/abstract bomb, imo. That's likely why hundredS of thousandS of universeS were simultaneously destroyed as a result of its detonation.

Yeah, probably something to do with time travel as well as that was said to be their weakness.

So, why were those other Beyonders (The ones that looked like Transformers) weaker than the ones that took on the Living Tribunal?

They're one in the same.

Evidently they assume an alien flesh form when battling abstract beings, and a robot form when battling physical beings.

Also I liked how Hickman threw in the stuff about the culling of Dooms, going back to his FF run.

^ 👆

And he referenced how the Black Swans and Black Priests were formed. Really did a great job with the loose ends here. This was an extremely well thought out/intelligent story from start to finish. 👆

Read an interesting theory somewhere else about what the weapon was (because we never actually see what was inside it).

Spoiler:
It's the Molecule Men that have been being killed by Doom. It's kind of a good theory as it would explain a few things. A) The sheer power of the weapon (if each Molecule Man can kill a universe when he dies, all together they'd destroy many, many universes). B) Why Strange was absolutely shocked by what he saw. C) What Molecule Man was saying as he looked at the weapon, along with all the purple energy from it that has characterized his powers throughout this arc. D) Why that knife is always used and seems to be the only thing that can kill Molecule Man. And finally why some of the Swans left after seeing it- they had been indoctrinated to see that Molecule Man was a great threat, then seeing that Rabum Alal had actually collected all of him would horrify them.

I mean it might not be true but would make a lot of sense.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Although I do wonder
Spoiler:
what Doom's weapon actually was?

Well. Dr. Doom did reveal that the Beyonders were "... constrained—restricted—to their own sequential time-line," and he did mock the Beyonders by saying "And I will make sure that no one will hear the word Beyonder again ... for I will erase it from history."

So apparently Dr. Doom killed them by dropping a time-bomb into Wild Space, and subsequently he destroyed a good chunk of the multiverse. But he managed to save two dozen universes from Beyonders.

My only question is: I thought everyone was going to die, but there are clearly two dozen universes full with life, including Reed Richards and Black Panther. So when are they going to die? And what about the 616 and Ultimate incursion?

Well the two dozen universes puts us back at the point a few issues ago where Reed/T'challa explain all that to Captain America et al. And they explain that the last incursion will be Ult/616 and that's what we see at the end of Avengers #44.

So it goes: Thor/Hyp face the Beyonders, Doom/Strange face them and destroy the hundreds of thousands of universes, then The Illuminati confront Steve Rogers and his Avengers and this leads to the Cabal getting trapped in the Ultimate U, and now Ultimate U and 616 are the only ones left and the incursion is beginning.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Read an interesting theory somewhere else about what the weapon was (because we never actually see what was inside it).

Spoiler:
It's the Molecule Men that have been being killed by Doom. It's kind of a good theory as it would explain a few things. A) The sheer power of the weapon (if each Molecule Man can kill a universe when he dies, all together they'd destroy many, many universes). B) Why Strange was absolutely shocked by what he saw. C) What Molecule Man was saying as he looked at the weapon, along with all the purple energy from it that has characterized his powers throughout this arc. D) Why that knife is always used and seems to be the only thing that can kill Molecule Man. And finally why some of the Swans left after seeing it- they had been indoctrinated to see that Molecule Man was a great threat, then seeing that Rabum Alal had actually collected all of him would horrify them.

I mean it might not be true but would make a lot of sense.

This was the first thing a lot of people thought of. It would make perfect sense for Doom to turn the Beyonders' weapon(s) back on them. 👆

Originally posted by Astner
My only question is: I thought everyone was going to die, but there are clearly two dozen universes full with life, including Reed Richards and Black Panther. So when are they going to die? And what about the 616 and Ultimate incursion?
As of Avengers #44, the 616 and Ultimate universes are all that remain in the multiverse--and war between them is imminent:
http://i.imgur.com/pIA412s.jpg