Originally posted by Galan007
My top 3 would be:
Weirdworld
Marvel Zombies
Old Man LoganWell, Maker trapped/imprisoned Monica prior to the multiversal destruction, so it's possible that she's alive I suppose... Dunno how BM could have survived, though, but I wouldn't be surprised if he did.
I hope ur right about Monica..
It be a waste to kill Blue Marvel and racist lol
But a waste.. Good character
Golgo's head must be exploding.
Secret Wars #1 sold over 500,000 copies.
"Overall, Marvel commanded over 40% of the Direct Market in May, with DC Comics' share dipping to roughly a quarter of the market."
Originally posted by One-Punch
Golgo's head must be exploding.Secret Wars #1 sold over 500,000 copies.
"Overall, Marvel commanded over 40% of the Direct Market in May, with DC Comics' share dipping to roughly a quarter of the market."
Someone link this thread to prepman ASAP 😄
Originally posted by One-Punch😂
Golgo's head must be exploding.Secret Wars #1 sold over 500,000 copies.
"Overall, Marvel commanded over 40% of the Direct Market in May, with DC Comics' share dipping to roughly a quarter of the market."
Marvel owns dc. It isn't even close.
April: Convergence comes out, Marvel still wins by 4% market share.
May: Secret Wars comes out. Marvel beats DC by 15% market share. The same amount as March. And only slightly above February, at 13% Marvel lead. But not as big a lead as January, which due to Star Wars was a 17% advantage.
There's only been one month this year where Marvel doesn't have double-digit advantage. Sometimes Image is closer to DC than DC is to Marvel.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Marvel is more popular nowadays, but I don't think it has much to do with quality of output though.
Eh, I feel DC's *quality* has gotten really shaky since the reboot. They change course on things so much, the end of a writer's run usually means a new direction for a book, and thus a good writer's influence isn't really carried on, and some really stupid stuff gets greenlit by editorial. You have some good individual runs, but things as a whole are hindered by the instability. Heck, even some of the good ones work by essentially ignoring stuff that's quite recent (Harley in Villain's Month vs Harley in her run). They've been adding a bit more variety to content recently, I think they may be headed up, but they've got problems.
While not all Marvel books are great, of course, they've managed to get a series of very good superhits, like Miss Marvel, Spider-Gwen, and that sort. Got some A-list talent for the Star Wars books as well.
And talking events...
Blockythe1guyWhich tie-ins of both events was the worst?
Secret wars or Convergence?
Convergence, there's a few good ones (Atom was good, as was Rucka's book. I liked the Superboy one, and the JLI one), but a number are really half-assed in way too visible ways.
The Matrix Supergirl one, for example, has Lex and others insult Matrix and tell her she's not the real Supergirl. Which is one of those 'ignore what Matrix was actually like, shove in an out-of-universe perception' thing, and I can't see why fans of Matrix would want to pick up a book that openly insults her a bunch. Plus some serious spine-breaking art.
Batgirls, the writer had never worked with Cassandra Cain before, and it shows. They didn't do a good job of Cass or Steph, and it was fairly boring all in all, not living up to either of Steph or Cass's comic runs.
There was a lot less planning, and it reflects in the book's quality. Some writers got put on books that they didn't get, plain and simple, and putting the wrong creative teams for the material is editorial's problem.
Secret Wars has a lot of tie-ins, a few a bit confusing, but most of them rather fun and taking advantage of the ability to throw stuff together in odd ways. There's thought as to how Battleworld is set up, and a lot of fun possibilities are put into place. Thors as God-Doom's enforcers? Island of Hulks? Buncha baronies under different heroes/villains? Captain America partnered with Devil Dinosaur? Good stuff.
And heck, I say this as someone who *didn't* like Hickman's lead up. The pacing was bad, it waited too long to show the heroes trying-and-failing at alternatives, and the bit where the Illuminati save for Namor chicken out on pulling the trigger on another world because they assumed there'd be another way, after insisting there was no alternatives for the prior four months was eye-rolly. But even that said, Marvel planned ahead, and it shows in their books, and the overall plotline works, and it paid off.
DC has been spiraling down ever since the New 52 due to mismanagement, broken promises with writers, last minute changes and shortened deadlines; and it's only gotten worse since. The continuity is all over the place with neither writers nor fans knowing what to make of it.
You can read more about it on the comprehensive post on Gutters and Panels, here.
So it's most likely the lack of competition that is pushing Marvel to the top. But Marvel is as good as ever I think; not better, not worse.
Originally posted by Astner
DC has been spiraling down ever since the New 52 due to mismanagement, broken promises with writers, last minute changes and shortened deadlines; and it's only gotten worse since. The continuity is all over the place with neither writers nor fans knowing what to make of it.
I do think it's looking up a little recently- I like the new directions of Batgirl, Harley Quinn, Starfire... early on writer style tended to be drowned out by house style and microediting, so having books with a different voice like that is a good thing.
But that is, of course, assuming they don't fall into old habits and lose those creators, and they still aren't managing things nearly as solidly as Marvel, or DC of ~8 years ago.
You can read more about it on the comprehensive post on Gutters and Panels, here.
Yes, things were a total *mess*.
So it's most likely the lack of competition that is pushing Marvel to the top. But Marvel is as good as ever I think; not better, not worse.
I'll toss in two other factors. One, Marvel is managing to snag the female readership. While there's been a lot of attempts to do so in the past by both companies, their real push in the area (10~ female lead solo books in the last year. Launching Spider-Gwen in response to positive reaction when they already had Silk in the works- both books are doing well. Female Thor. That sort of thing) has gotten better attraction than any prior tries. So while not necessarily better, they're getting a bit wider.
Two, Image is lighting up the charts, and to a lesser extent other companies. For the first time in a long time, a 3rd party company is regularly hitting double-digit market share. Image is taking the slot Vertigo used to have. So DC's not just facing competition from above, but losing the Vertigo niche as well, which used to provide a small but reliable amount of sales.
Some stand alone stories are decent, but others are written by writers who don't know the characters and so we get "new takes" on established characters; on top of that the writers don't seem to know what's in continuity and what isn't, all while attempting another reboot to put out new #1😖 to increase sales. It's a mess and fans are losing interest in it.
I don't think Marvel's decisions are upping the sales, I think it's the movies that are bringing in new fans.
Originally posted by Astner
DC has been spiraling down ever since the New 52 due to mismanagement, broken promises with writers, last minute changes and shortened deadlines; and it's only gotten worse since. The continuity is all over the place with neither writers nor fans knowing what to make of it.You can read more about it on the comprehensive post on Gutters and Panels, here.
So it's most likely the lack of competition that is pushing Marvel to the top. But Marvel is as good as ever I think; not better, not worse.
Reminds me of this:
MARVEL vs. DC