New 'Secret Wars' is Marvel Comics' major event of 2015

Originally posted by One-Punch
Reminds me of this:

MARVEL vs. DC

This shit is so inaccurate though.

If have blacks in your team is the pinnacle of quality writing then DC was 10 years ahead of Marvel with preboot Justice League.

Edit: I'll do the list.

1 - Wonder Woman makes out a third of the team in her first movie. Black Widow was like a sixth in Avengers or a third at best in WS.

2 - DC are already doing renee montoya, Apollo/MN, E2 Alan Scott..

3 - Batcow, Christmas specials...

4 - Just plain wrong 👆

5 - Majority of members in preboot Justice League were PoC

6 - Nonsense

7 - More nonsense 👆 👆

8 - Zatanna already outsluts, outstories, outdepths She Hulk on everything

9 - And we're back to terrible nonsense. Not like DC's never had any female or black versions of superheroes thoug, right? 😄

3. Loki the Agent of Asgard was cringe-inducingly bad.

Originally posted by Q99
I do think it's looking up a little recently- I like the new directions of Batgirl, Harley Quinn, Starfire... early on writer style tended to be drowned out by house style and microediting, so having books with a different voice like that is a good thing.

But that is, of course, assuming they don't fall into old habits and lose those creators, and they still aren't managing things nearly as solidly as Marvel, or DC of ~8 years ago.

Yes, things were a total *mess*.

I'll toss in two other factors. One, Marvel is managing to snag the female readership. While there's been a lot of attempts to do so in the past by both companies, their real push in the area (10~ female lead solo books in the last year. Launching Spider-Gwen in response to positive reaction when they already had Silk in the works- both books are doing well. Female Thor. That sort of thing) has gotten better attraction than any prior tries. So while not necessarily better, they're getting a bit wider.

Two, Image is lighting up the charts, and to a lesser extent other companies. For the first time in a long time, a 3rd party company is regularly hitting double-digit market share. Image is taking the slot Vertigo used to have. So DC's not just facing competition from above, but losing the Vertigo niche as well, which used to provide a small but reliable amount of sales.

Many creators currently have been clear that DC has been very good to work with creative wise. And in terms of sales, DC is up and more healthy than they were pre DCnU. Ever since the DCnU rolled out, sales have been up, which is a good thing.

And DC You (Stupid, I know) has been a BLAST so far. Very strong buzz for pretty much all the books so far.

Starfire for instance is a top seller for June and DC should be very close to Marvel in market share.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/06/15/bleeding-cool-bestseller-list-15th-june-2015-batman-begins/

Only reason why Marvel takes leads is because of Star Wars and constant events and relaunching. Without that, DC would have been like December, where DC and Marvel split.

http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2014/2014-12.html

Runaways was fun. 👆

1602 Witch Hunter was the best so far for me. Followed by Weirdworld.

^ Both of those are better than Runaways, for sure. 👆

I just didn't expect much from the latter, so I was surprised that I actually enjoyed it.

I forgot Runaways came out. I've always loved those characters. 👆

Originally posted by Zack M
Many creators currently have been clear that DC has been very good to work with creative wise. And in terms of sales, DC is up and more healthy than they were pre DCnU. Ever since the DCnU rolled out, sales have been up, which is a good thing.

And DC You (Stupid, I know) has been a BLAST so far. Very strong buzz for pretty much all the books so far.

Starfire for instance is a top seller for June and DC should be very close to Marvel in market share.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/06/15/bleeding-cool-bestseller-list-15th-june-2015-batman-begins/

Only reason why Marvel takes leads is because of Star Wars and constant events and relaunching. Without that, DC would have been like December, where DC and Marvel split.

http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2014/2014-12.html

I enjoyed the Squadron Sinister tie-in. Was good to see a classic version of the SS again.

On a side note, I wonder what happened to the Spider-Man newspaper strip universe? It was sealed off forever from all other universes in Spider-Verse, so did it survive the destruction of the MU unharmed? The strip is still going after all...

This week probably had the best tie ins. Next week only looks to have like 1 or two decent comics

Originally posted by One Big Mob
This week probably had the best tie ins. Next week only looks to have like 1 or two decent comics

I'm just hoping Civil War comes good, not only will Sentry be in it but I think there is the potential for it to an overall good tie in.

Wait, nevermind I was counting the Deadpool Secret Wars among them... next week looks better actually. Forgot about Korvac Saga which I hope focuses on Korvac more than I think it will. It's written by DnA too so it should be OK at least.

But Civil War might be decent. I doubt they focus too much on Sentry though. It'd be better if he became a huge villain though

Originally posted by Zack M
[B]Many creators currently have been clear that DC has been very good to work with creative wise.

Apparently it's been spotty, like different sub-editors treat their creators differently. What's needed is consistently good editors.

I think the quality of editors of different lines have improved, but overall the people at top still need to get their heads around planning and consistency if they want to catch up.

And in terms of sales, DC is up and more healthy than they were pre DCnU. Ever since the DCnU rolled out, sales have been up, which is a good thing.

While they are up in absolute numbers, so is *everyone*, and comparatively they're lagging behind by an amount not dissimilar to pre-reboot. Ironically, it's arguable the relaunch helped the rest of the industry more than them, it got a lot of people into the stores, but those people then moved to other books.

Starfire for instance is a top seller for June and DC should be very close to Marvel in market share.

Doubtful- Marvel has Secret Wars.

Only reason why Marvel takes leads is because of Star Wars and constant events and relaunching.

Their month-to-month book sales are very solid, and they were consistently in the lead before Star Wars, that just widened the gap. They do do a 'season' method of ending books and starting new ones, but that's been their style for years now, and the launches are spread out so they don't produce big month sales spikes very often.

Heck, *DC* largely stayed in the game at all due to stuff like it's 3-d cover months and weekly comics (Batman Eternal and such). They've been leaning fairly hard on gimmicks recently, which is a limited well.

You can only chalk up events so much when DC's had some big ones, and they just lost in an event vs non-even month.

Without that, DC would have been like December, where DC and Marvel split.

Note in December, Marvel released 77 books to DC's 102.

That's the factor that allowed them to split, they put out a third more comics that month. In April, they both put out 88 exactly, DC with an event and Marvel not, and Marvel won by 4%.

In most months, DC tends to trail in double-digits, and their events are the only times they get close nowadays.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Wait, nevermind I was counting the Deadpool Secret Wars among them... next week looks better actually. Forgot about Korvac Saga which I hope focuses on Korvac more than I think it will. It's written by DnA too so it should be OK at least.

Only Dan Abnett not his Pal Andy Lanning

i think might be also linked to the Guardians 3000 book how it ended too.

So since that interview where Hickman said

Spoiler:
Sue

Or is there special cases like the areas specifically from 616/Ultimate universe? I'd assume they'd be originals anyway since it came from those universes.

Also why would Doom allow an Infinity Gauntlet to exist there... and I assume it bypasses limitations even if it goes beyond the piece of land it came from.

Re-ordered with most enjoyed stories at top:

Infinity Gauntlet
Weirdworld
A-Force
Squadron Sinister
Korvac Saga
Runaways
Ghost Racers
Old Man Logan
Master of Kung-Fu
Marvel Zombies
Inhumans - Attilan Rising

X-Tinction Agenda, Years of Future Past, Inferno, E is for Extinction and Future Imperfect have piqued my interest.

I was really surprised how much I liked Squadron Sinister and Korvac Saga. Squadron Sinister is just the Crime Syndicate on steroids (w/ a neat twist). And I just really like how Abnett is using the concept of Schism (things that contradict the godhead of Doom) as the central plot to his story. Really grows out of Secret Wars and adds to it as well.

Originally posted by Zack M
Many creators currently have been clear that DC has been very good to work with creative wise. And in terms of sales, DC is up and more healthy than they were pre DCnU. Ever since the DCnU rolled out, sales have been up, which is a good thing.

And DC You (Stupid, I know) has been a BLAST so far. Very strong buzz for pretty much all the books so far.

Starfire for instance is a top seller for June and DC should be very close to Marvel in market share.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/06/15/bleeding-cool-bestseller-list-15th-june-2015-batman-begins/

Only reason why Marvel takes leads is because of Star Wars and constant events and relaunching. Without that, DC would have been like December, where DC and Marvel split.

http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2014/2014-12.html

Wtf

Originally posted by Zack M
Many creators currently have been clear that DC has been very good to work with creative wise. And in terms of sales, DC is up and more healthy than they were pre DCnU. Ever since the DCnU rolled out, sales have been up, which is a good thing.

And DC You (Stupid, I know) has been a BLAST so far. Very strong buzz for pretty much all the books so far.

Starfire for instance is a top seller for June and DC should be very close to Marvel in market share.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/06/15/bleeding-cool-bestseller-list-15th-june-2015-batman-begins/

Only reason why Marvel takes leads is because of Star Wars and constant events and relaunching. Without that, DC would have been like December, where DC and Marvel split.

http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2014/2014-12.html

Do you and Golgo work for or have stocks with Dc ? Is your profolio good right ?

Jk😉

With that Ghost Racers book has it got more then just racing to do with it?

Secret Wars #4 Preview

So

Spoiler:
we have the assurance that Doom gained the Beyonders power after killing them.