New 'Secret Wars' is Marvel Comics' major event of 2015

Started by AlmightyKfish59 pages

Except that Manhatten is literally the only part of 616 that is part of Battleworld, except maybe the Wakanda or Latveria type bits.

So one way or another the rest of Earth will need to be remade for Spider-Man to be able to go to these places once this event ends.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Except that Manhatten is literally the only part of 616 that is part of Battleworld,

That we know of. Frisco and the other cities are probably located on Battleworld too.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
So one way or another the rest of Earth will need to be remade for Spider-Man to be able to go to these places once this event ends.

Listen to the interview. From 10:30:

Interviewer: So the Battlewolrd is sort of the incubator of the new Marvel Universe you've mentioned. So that means that Battleworld is going to be the Marvel Universe as far as we're concerned during Secret Wars.

Tom: After. Well. During through and after. Once you hit the... once the war is won there is no Marvel Universe. There is no Ultimate Universe. All there is is Battleword and a whole lot of empty void.

Axel: The Marvel Universe is Battleworld, and every world we are going to introduce you to, all of which will be familiar, we're also allowed to show this, every single piece of this world is a building block for the Marvel Universe moving forward. None of these stories are elseworlds, what ifs or alternate reality stories, they are not set in the past or the future, they are not set in an alternate reality. They are set in the reality of the Marvel Universe and all of them will have legs....

There you have it. There are no plans to recreate the 616 or the Ultimate Universe.

What's the point of this b*llshit.

They haven't replicated the success of Shooter's original Secret Wars or anything. Rebooting is a retarded idea.

Marvel and DC are dying, it seems. Good, let them die, the f*cked up everything anyway.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
What's the point of this b*llshit.

They haven't replicated the success of Shooter's original Secret Wars or anything. Rebooting is a retarded idea.


The point is to make attract new readers. The Marvel continuity has always been a mess, and this is their attempt to clear things up. As far as my opinion goes, I'll remain neutral until I've read a few of the stories to see how they've handled it.

I'm still certain they're not telling the truth about that. Or at least the circumstances post Secret Wars will be different to Battleworld (which requires Doom to be God to exist as he's holding the planet together, which really isn't really a sustainable position for him as the premier villain in the MU)

I mean the solicit for the last issue of Secret Wars is just 'GENESIS' for one thing. That alone implies something.

And plus we know Manhatten is the only place from 616 on Battleworld- this was shown in the Battleworld map and stated by Doctor Strange in issue #4, who has been their since the beginning.

Wasn't Silver Surfer said to re-create the marvel multiverse or something?

Unless they change their minds.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
What's the point of this b*llshit.

They haven't replicated the success of Shooter's original Secret Wars or anything. Rebooting is a retarded idea.

Marvel and DC are dying, it seems. Good, let them die, the f*cked up everything anyway.

There is almost nothing left of Marvel or DC that I have any interest in at all anymore. Other than a couple of titles that have some novely interest, this Secret Wars event is almost all crap IMO. It has largely destroyed my interest in Marvel. DC is mostly unreadable too. Mind you, stopping reading comics is probably a good thing.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
I'm still certain they're not telling the truth about that.

Then you're wrong, because it would be detrimental to Marvel's image for the editor-in-chief to lie in about the direction Marvel is planing to take.

Battleworld is a patchwork of previously existing Marvel Earths, [url=]source[/url], and most alternate Earths did have the locations you specified and so it wouldn't be a surprise to find them on Battleworld.

As for Battleworld being unstable, that's an issue that can easily be resolved.

Originally posted by Blockythe1guy
Wasn't Silver Surfer said to re-create the marvel multiverse or something?

What? When? Source reference?

Originally posted by Astner
The Marvel continuity has always been a mess,

It has? Isn't that DC you're talking about?

Originally posted by Astner
Then you're wrong, because it would be detrimental to Marvel's image for the editor-in-chief to lie in about the direction Marvel is planing to take.

Battleworld is a patchwork of previously existing Marvel Earths, [url=]source[/url], and most alternate Earths did have the locations you specified and so it wouldn't be a surprise to find them on Battleworld.

As for Battleworld being unstable, that's an issue that can easily be resolved.

What? When? Source reference?

http://www.newsarama.com/22828-marvel-release-full-map-of-secret-wars-battleworld.html

I mean they've literally shown us the map of the entire world. It's a patchwork of parts of them yes, but we know that only those places shown on the map are there. And those are there because those were the specific locations that incursions happened on (with the incursion domes appearing over the course of the 8ML Avengers/NA issues).

Basically Battleworld will have to change massively to be the only place left that Marvel publish stories on. Especially as it looks like the wall will fall fairly soon.

And also loads of stuff about the post secret wars series seems to shown stuff that couldn't be on Battleworld, at least in it's current state. I mean okay Battleworld might be the ongoing Marvel Earth, but it will have to change massively AND the rest of the universe will have to be recreated as we know at least a few post SW series are in space. (Drax, Gamora, Groot, Rocket, Star Lord, Nova, Ultimates, Guardians etc)

Also of course they're not going to tell us exactly what will happen after secret wars because spoilers etc, but yeah, Battleworld as is will not be the default planet. Maybe it replaces Earth in the single universe they'll build or whatnot but at the very least then the rest of the universe will be recreated too.

Don't know if this has been posted here yet since I haven't checked this thread in a while (couple of days).

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/09/the-michelangelo-of-superheroes.html

Something I noticed in particular was this,

It could also be a byproduct of people reading all those dark, post-apocalyptic stories. Do you think this trend is what led Marvel to reset their entire comic book universe with Secret Wars?

I don’t know how much of that “resetting their universe” is true. I’m on the other side of working on stuff post-reset and as far as I can tell, it looks exactly as it was just before the Secret Wars event. They are not doing a “New 52,” I can tell you that.

Don't know if it's hugely relevant to current discussion but I guess it is relevant to Secret Wars.

Also comic shipping is getting even more later.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/08/24/secret-wars-gets-even-later/

They push it back just for the bullshit tie ins.

Am I glad I don't buy comics.

They just stealing Jim Shooters "New Marvel" idea....

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
They just stealing Jim Shooters "New Marvel" idea....

Eh Marvel do these reset jumping on points every few years. I mean even if this one folds it all into a single universe it's not going to change history much like COIE or such.

It just seems to be a way to fold everyone into a single universe so popular characters like Miles Morales can be in the 'main' universe or whatnot.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Eh Marvel do these reset jumping on points every few years. I mean even if this one folds it all into a single universe it's not going to change history much like COIE or such.

It just seems to be a way to fold everyone into a single universe so popular characters like Miles Morales can be in the 'main' universe or whatnot.


Its been what 50 years? And they are finally re-booting with mark gruberg and Jim shooters characters? I mean Jim shooter wanted a reboot but they didn't want to at the time and now they are doing it....

The Avengers will be Canadian after the reboot.

So, when I get back from work the last issue of Loki Agent of Asgard is going to be out and we'll hopefully learn of TOAA's role during the Incursion event. Good times!

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Eh Marvel do these reset jumping on points every few years.

Reshuffle would be the proper term, I think.

Because they take all the cards, put 'em back in the deck, then deal them out again in new hands, but they're all still the same cards.

Secret Wars is going to 9 issues now.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/marvels-secret-wars-expands-to-nine-issues?utm_campaign=marvels-secret-wars-expands-to-nine-issues