Is it hypocritical to not believe in God...

Originally posted by Bardock42
Are you asking me whether I think that the separation of church is a valuable rule? Or do you not understand why printing "In God We Trust" on the only form of government sanctioned currency violates the rule?

Oh, so the latter, fair enough.

Originally posted by Mindship
Hypocritical? I say thee, nay. However, I do find it amusing (revealing?) that we put "God" on our money.

That said i find some of the responses here amusing (revealing) too! 😛

Originally posted by riv6672
You guys realize i'm just trying to give us something to discuss in this forum other than the two eminem threads that were topped (again) this morning?

That said i find some of the responses here amusing (revealing) too! 😛

The intention is fine. The topic remains odd. I'll ask again: what alternative would there be?

Bitcoin, obvs.

Sharing could be an alternative to money. It would require an immense shift in behavior on the behalf of people worldwide, but...

Originally posted by Digi
The intention is fine. The topic remains odd. I'll ask again: what alternative would there be?

Leave the country? Admit ethics are situational? Realize there are no atheists in foxholes (or at the grocery store)?

Originally posted by riv6672
Leave the country? Admit ethics are situational? Realize there are no atheists in foxholes (or at the grocery store)?

Again, can you explain why you think this is possibly hypocritical.

I never said i did, personally.

Originally posted by riv6672
I never said i did, personally.

@ Riv

I find your threads very interesting, keep it up. 👆

I do really like them

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, but like you seem to think there is some way this could be considered hypocritical. So on the one hand there's people that don't believe in God, and on the other there's paper that has the word God printed on it...how do we connect these two things to make "hypocritical" make sense.

I've been asked this in RL and my answer was, basically what i posted above.

I'm not going to leave the country, ethics are situational, and there's no atheists at the grocery store.

Hypocrisy to me requires some level of forethought and do as i say not do mentality.
When its something you dont really think about, like saying god damn it when you smash your thumb, saying oh my god when you get shot at, exchanging christmas presents or saying merry christmas, or just spending money, i chalk it up to: "dude, stop overthinking things and shut the hell up." In a good natured way. In the end its not such a big deal.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
@ Riv

I find your threads very interesting, keep it up. 👆

I do really like them

Originally posted by riv6672
...yet still spend money? In the US at least.
That whole "in god we trust" thing.
Is it a matter of people not caring enough about their non belief? A convenient overlooking of something that'd make life impossible to live in the US?
What's everyone's take on this?

Of course it isn't. If you work you should certainly be able to eat. It costs money to eat in most countries of the world, unless you live in one that provides you with food stamps. You would still need to pay rent however. So the answer to your question remains no, it is not hypocritical.

Originally posted by riv6672
...yet still spend money? In the US at least.
That whole "in god we trust" thing.
Is it a matter of people not caring enough about their non belief? A convenient overlooking of something that'd make life impossible to live in the US?
What's everyone's take on this?

I'm sure you would.

Originally posted by riv6672
Leave the country? Admit ethics are situational? Realize there are no atheists in foxholes (or at the grocery store)?

The atheist in foxhole analogy has to do with belief. No atheist is believing in a god because it's printed on money. Nor is it a statement of belief to use money. It's...just using money. It's not a religious statement, nor an ethical question. There's no cause to say ethics are situational because there's no ethical issue in play. It's just using money.

So you're saying that every atheist needs to leave the country or...what? Say they're hypocrites? You realize the absurdity of that statement, yes? It's akin to saying atheists are hypocrites if they say "Bless you" or "God bless you" after someone sneezes. It's just oversimplifying everything to the point of falsehood.

Also, most atheists I know - myself included - don't give a **** what the money says. If anything, money is the ultimate symbol of secularism. The presence of religious doctrine on it is, imo, more damning for religions that it would be for atheists.

There's also the fact that the only reason why "In God We Trust" appears on the money (or "One Nation, Under God" appears in the Pledge of Allegiance) was because of McCarthyism and the Red Scare of the 1950s. It was all part of an anti-Communist/Athiest (because 'Commies' were 'godless'😉 propaganda campaign. "Real Americans" were red-blooded, God fearing, capitalist Patriots. Socialists, Communists, and other citizens who held more liberal/'progressive' views on social programs and the role of government were godless monsters hell bent on destroying the American way of life. "In God We Trust" is just a Cold War propaganda relic.

Originally posted by riv6672

Is it hypocritical to not believe in God ...

...yet still spend money? In the US at least.
That whole "in God we trust" thing.
Is it a matter of people not caring enough about their non belief? A convenient overlooking of something that'd make life impossible to live in the US?
What's everyone's take on this?

To the extent that people claim ownership of their money, yes, it can be and often is hypocritical to not believe in God yet still spend money.

Explain.

Plz, someone make a logical case for why it could possibly be hypocritical. Is the missing axiom that "If you touch something that has a word written on it, you must believe in the concept the word describes"?

I learned what a nonethical issue is in my Ethics class not too long ago.

That feels relevant somehow.