Originally posted by NemeBroCalm down.
I don't see much evidence for Shabazz being inordinately excited.
Originally posted by NemeBroWell now this is just nonsensical.
Most of what is taking place here is not nonsensical.
However, it requires some background knowledge to understand.
For starters, there is something called the Fallacy of Equivocation being used by both sides here. And they probably don't know it.
What that means is they are using words that have multiple definitions, "evolve" and "math" for starters, and using DIFFERENT definitions from what their opponent is using. So they're actually talking about different subjects. The conversation cannot really develop with any significant meaning until they agree on one thing, and exactly one thing as their topic, and choose the SAME topic and discuss that.
They can move on to other topics after that, and NEED to in order to have a conversation that actually goes somewhere in this thread, but they need to start on exactly ONE subject first, and it has to be the SAME thing they're talking about.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I don't see much evidence for Shabazz being inordinately excited.Most of what is taking place here is not nonsensical.
However, it requires some background knowledge to understand.For starters, there is something called the Fallacy of Equivocation being used by both sides here. And they probably don't know it.
What that means is they are using words that have multiple definitions, "evolve" and "math" for starters, and using DIFFERENT definitions from what their opponent is using. So they're actually talking about different subjects. The conversation cannot really develop with any significant meaning until they agree on one thing, and exactly one thing as their topic, and choose the SAME topic and discuss that.
They can move on to other topics after that, and NEED to in order to have a conversation that actually goes somewhere in this thread, but they need to start on exactly ONE subject first, and it has to be the SAME thing they're talking about.
That is why I gave a definition.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I don't see much evidence for Shabazz being inordinately excited.
I don't see much evidence for me talking to Shabazz.
Most of what is taking place here is not nonsensical.
However, it requires some background knowledge to understand.For starters, there is something called the Fallacy of Equivocation being used by both sides here. And they probably don't know it.
What that means is they are using words that have multiple definitions, "evolve" and "math" for starters, and using DIFFERENT definitions from what their opponent is using. So they're actually talking about different subjects. The conversation cannot really develop with any significant meaning until they agree on one thing, and exactly one thing as their topic, and choose the SAME topic and discuss that.
They can move on to other topics after that, and NEED to in order to have a conversation that actually goes somewhere in this thread, but they need to start on exactly ONE subject first, and it has to be the SAME thing they're talking about.
How does that apply to me or the post I was responding to?
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I don't see much evidence for Jynocidus being inordinately excited, either.In fact, he even made it a point to say that he, unlike Shake, wouldn't be resorting to insults.
I think that bluewaterrider is a liar. That is not an insult or personal attack. I've seen him lei about me before. He lied, telling people that I had JIA banned, even after the person who reported JIA came forward and took credit (blame). I wouldn't believe him.
Originally posted by Shabazz916
this man believes the bible is fiction like star wars... i believe its not
No, I said the bible was a collection of stories mixed with Hebrew governmental documents.
That is not Star Wars. It could be like a collection of books with an abridged version of Star Wars in the collection.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I think that bluewaterrider is a liar. That is not an insult or personal attack. I've seen him lei about me before. He lied, telling people that I had JIA banned, even after the person who reported JIA came forward and took credit (blame). I wouldn't believe him.
If I told people that you had JIA reported and banned, you should have very little trouble quoting exactly where I said that.
Then again, if you can type that you think I am a liar and say that is NOT an insult or a personal attack, you may well wrongly believe it is impossible for you TO insult or personally attack a person.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
If I told people that you had JIA reported and banned, you should have very little trouble quoting exactly where I said that.Then again, if you can type that you think I am a liar and say that is NOT an insult or a personal attack, you may well wrongly believe it is impossible for you TO insult or personally attack a person.
People can look for themselves.
Why did you say this?
In fact, he even made it a point to say that he, unlike Shake, wouldn't be resorting to insults.
You just made it seem like I have been insulting people in this conversation. I have not. That is why I call you a liar. Your have lied about me!
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
People can look for themselves.Why did you say this?
You just made it seem like I have been insulting people in this conversation. I have not. That is why I call you a liar. Your have lied about me!
Most people would consider the following questions to be insulting.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Do you believe in math?
Originally posted by ShakyamunisonMath was created? How? Evolution was created by humans? I thought humans couldn't create?
You are just wrong. You believe in unicorns dancing in the spring time.
Math and evolution was discovered.
Math was created at the beginning of everything, discovered by men.
Evolution is a fantasy crafted by men. It's not true, that's why people are still looking for missing links and comparing organisms. Humans have always been humans, fish have always been fish, etc. Evolution is madness
The only thing that evolves in this world is ways of thinking, which is pretty much along the lines of change.
Originally posted by Jynocidus
Math was created at the beginning of everything, discovered by men.Evolution is a fantasy crafted by men. It's not true, that's why people are still looking for missing links and comparing organisms. Humans have always been humans, fish have always been fish, etc. Evolution is madness
The only thing that evolves in this world is ways of thinking, which is pretty much along the lines of change.
Scientist are not looking for a missing link. I changeling you to learn something about evolution. If you took the time to learn, you might change your mind.
However, evolution is not part of this thread.
What's so fictional about The Bible?
Many of the stories are unbelievable. People living inside of a fish, a super strong man as long as his hair is long, people walking in fire, raising the dead and talking snakes. These are all things that would be found in a fictional book of today.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That's insane! Just stop personally attacking me, and I will not call you out for it.
Call me out for what, exactly?
It is your modus operandi to try to badger and frustrate people in subtle and not so subtle ways.
Your comments to or about eninn throughout the following thread are a good "Exhibit A"
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=592809&pagenumber=1
You even admitted one method you've been trying to use to get rid of him recently, and tried to get others to collaborate and HELP you with your goal:
Originally posted by ShakyamunisonI post here asking eninn questions, because I think he needs to be banned. Sure, I'm probably on his ignore list, but everyone is not. I suggest that everyone here ask him questions about Islam, and if he doesn't answer any of them, then he is just spamming the board. He should be banned.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=599632&pagenumber=6
So ... what exactly do you think I'm making up?
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Call me out for what, exactly?
In fact, he even made it a point to say that he, unlike Shake, wouldn't be resorting to insults.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
It [b]is your modus operandi to try to badger and frustrate people in subtle and not so subtle ways. [/B]
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Your comments to or about eninn throughout the following thread are a good "Exhibit A"
You even [b]admitted one method you've been trying to use to get rid of him recently, and tried to get others to collaborate and HELP you with your goal:
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
So ... what exactly do you think I'm making up?
Originally posted by ShakyamunisonYou are attacking be personally because of some hatred you have for me because of JIA being banned. You are being spiteful and lying with intent to defame.
I actually wasn't thinking at all of JIA, rather of your recent behavior in this and other threads in the past few days.
What's so fictional about The Bible?
Originally posted by Jynocidus
Is it literally, by calculation, logic, or rationale, impossible for A Creator to exist?Are the laws ineffective, worldwide?
I think the laws of the Bible, though you'd have to specify which ones you're referring to, are, in general, effective worldwide.
But as for the main question "What's so fictional about the Bible"?, it's worth pointing out that SO much stuff has proven true from the Bible, that there is a book called "The Bible as History" that points out some of the remarkable accuracy it has in describing how things are even today.
I started the following as one of my first threads and you can find some corroboration for that assertion after clicking the link.
Note even the miraculous manna and quail are readily explained in this book: