Technically speaking Bane succeeded in all his goals
Is this an admission that Bane is inferior to Sidious, Plagueis, and Tenebrous?
and Vitiate ruled his Empire for about 500 times as long as Sidious managed.
I'm sure Sidious would also have managed ruling for that kind of time if he decided to hide in the far corner of the galaxy rather than conquering it.
Vitiate didn't actually conquer the Republic, though. He managed to badly damage it, but suffered considerable losses to his own Empire in the process.
@Darth Power -
Never claimed they did. I just highly doubt Sidious purposefully let a Physical Beast like Opress land a physical hit on him. Or let Maul land a kick on him in an intense duel with those dangerous Mechanical legs of his.
I wasn't even posting specifically in response to you, so I never said anything about you or what you said.
Anyway, this is entirely up to your reckoning, in my opinion. It's not going to be possible to convince anybody to budge from their position regarding this.
He certainly put Opress completely down with a kick. But pretty sure Maul tanked/rolled with each kick Sidious gave him.
He does roll with them, but again, I have my reservations about Sidious applying maximum (or considerable) force behind each one.
Originally posted by SunRazer
V@Darth Power -
I wasn't even posting specifically in response to you, so I never said anything about you or what you said.
Ah ok.
Originally posted by SunRazer
VAnyway, this is entirely up to your reckoning, in my opinion. It's not going to be possible to convince anybody to budge from their position regarding this.He does roll with them, but again, I have my reservations about Sidious applying maximum (or considerable) force behind each one.
Fair enough. I don't mind people having reservations. I do mind people presenting their reservations as fact.
Originally posted by Nephthys
TBF Filoni was exaggerating when he said no one could compete with Sidious. Mace, Yoda and Talzin could. Duh. 😬Not even getting into the you know who's.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Also, regarding Filoni's "no one can compete with this guy", he's likely referring to the main characters of the series (or the story arc in particular), and obviously not beings like the Ones etc.
That's exactly my point though about not taking his comments so damn literally, otherwise we would have to believe that even Yoda can't compete with him (never mind the ones).
And if he's exaggerating on that, then he's probably slightly exaggerating on the "can't even touch him" part.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Looks like we're still at impasse, DP. I see nothing that indicates Maul was pressing Sheev. All I see is a blatantly one-sided fight that the Zabraks could never have won.
Don't disagree tbh.
Just think the Zabraks (especially Maul) were better in the "Saber" portion of the fight than you give them/him credit for.