'Yeah, awesome, so, I need to showcase how awesome my Hulk is. What've you got for me Quesada?'
'Well, G-Pak, you can always kill some powerful characters off if you want, that'll show you as top dog!'
'Awesome! Who can I use? Thor? Surfer? Maybe we can dig around and kill off Juggy?'
'Bi-Beast and Wendigo. And Wendigo can always come back.'
'...Who?'
'Bi-Beast, man....legendary villain? C'mon, guys...'
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
'Yeah, awesome, so, I need to showcase how awesome my Hulk is. What've you got for me Quesada?''Well, G-Pak, you can always kill some powerful characters off if you want, that'll show you as top dog!'
'Awesome! Who can I use? Thor? Surfer? Maybe we can dig around and kill off Juggy?'
'Bi-Beast and Wendigo. And Wendigo can always come back.'
'...Who?'
'Bi-Beast, man....legendary villain? C'mon, guys...'
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Bi-Beast and Wendigo, the ultimative Heralds, better known than both Silver Surfer and Thor!
Originally posted by Psychotron
Agreed. In fact, didn't Thor crack the surface of a planet with the shock waves of his own punches recently? I haven't been keeping up with him.
You're probably thinking of his fight with God Slayer. Shockwaves from his hammer reach a planet in the distance, nearly breaking it to pieces and threatening the alien population.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
'Yeah, awesome, so, I need to showcase how awesome my Hulk is. What've you got for me Quesada?''Well, G-Pak, you can always kill some powerful characters off if you want, that'll show you as top dog!'
'Awesome! Who can I use? Thor? Surfer? Maybe we can dig around and kill off Juggy?'
'Bi-Beast and Wendigo. And Wendigo can always come back.'
'...Who?'
'Bi-Beast, man....legendary villain? C'mon, guys...'
You forgot about Fing Fang who was stated as being as powerful as 17 Hercs. Also, you might want to look at Bi Beast fights. To my knowledge he has one low showing that is out of his norm. The rest of his fights treats him as Herald level. Wendigo is questionable since he is all over the place but he is always depicted as Hulk level (let's not forget these people were amped). Armageddon...do i really have to name what he's done? Let's put it like this, a description of what he did was presented in the same comic where Hulk beats him (the guy defeated both Merged Hulk and Surfer at the same time). Mindless ones isn't a slouch in the durability area either. Especially recently and even during the WWH arc. Before that it was stated that their durability allows them to walk in the heart of neutron stars. Overall, stop trolling and helping the Hulk haters.
Originally posted by carver9
You forgot about Fing Fang who was stated as being as powerful as 17 Hercs. Also, you might want to look at Bi Beast fights. To my knowledge he has one low showing that is out of his norm. The rest of his fights treats him as Herald level. Wendigo is questionable since he is all over the place. Armageddon...do i really have to name what he's done? Let's put it like this, a description of what he did was presented in the same comic where Hulk beats him (the guy defeated both Merged Hulk and Surfer at the same time). Mindless ones isn't a slouch in the durability area either. Especially recently and even during the WWH arc. Before that it was stated that their durability allows them to walk in the heart of neutron stars. Overall, stop trolling.
Lol, you know I'm messing. I even quoted GotG!
But yeah, Bi-Beast/ArmCheddon are HARDLY household names, is my point. Sure, they had good showings a loooooong time ago (as you are sometimes fond of pointing out), but they are as disposable as no name Lanterns, which is my point. Thor or anyone else in Marvel could've showed up and killed them just as easily for the sake of the story.
Nobody would miss them. And most people would not even care if they died or had a low showing.
On the other hand, witness how people raged about Thor/Malekith.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol, you know I'm messing. I even quoted GotG!But yeah, Bi-Beast/ArmCheddon are HARDLY household names, is my point. Sure, they had good showings a loooooong time ago (as you are sometimes fond of pointing out), but they are as disposable as no name Lanterns, which is my point. Thor or anyone else in Marvel could've showed up and killed them just as easily for the sake of the story.
Nobody would miss them. And most people would not even care if they died or had a low showing.
On the other hand, witness how people raged about Thor/Malekith.
Don't think Thor would kill them easily though. The last fight Bi Beast had in the yr 2000's that I can remember was against Hulk and he held his own. Wait, he fought against the entirety of the defender iirc. He isn't a slouch unless we ignore his showings. His one bad showing that I can remember is his last fight against Thor and Ironman where Thor koed him in easily but that contradicts everything else he did and has done.
Wendigo is still a beast though and until this day is being classified as high tier.
The rest of the characters are beasts though. Strange was pissing his pants at the sight of Fing Fang when he arrived of Earth. Basically helpless and again, that fang was classified as being as powerful as 17 Hercules. Above Herald level imo and was said that nothing on earth could stop him minus Hulk.
I just think people are trying a little too hard to lowball the ft (not saying that you are doing it) and not giving credit where credit is due.
Originally posted by carver9
Don't think Thor would kill them easily though. The last fight Bi Beast had in the yr 2000's that I can remember was against Hulk and he held his own. Wait, he fought against the entirety of the defender iirc. He isn't a slouch unless we ignore his showings. His one bad showing that I can remember is his last fight against Thor and Ironman where Thor koed him in easily but that contradicts everything else he did and has done.Wendigo is still a beast though and until this day is being classified as high tier.
The rest of the characters are beasts though. Strange was pissing his pants at the sight of Fing Fang when he arrived of Earth. Basically helpless and again, that fang was classified as being as powerful as 17 Hercules. Above Herald level imo and was said that nothing on earth could stop him minus Hulk.
I just think people are trying a little too hard to lowball the ft (not saying that you are doing it) and not giving credit where credit is due.
All I'm saying is, they have no fanbases. If they died/get KOed, its not so silly.
Besides, Thor has already killed the real FFF.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
All I'm saying is, they have no fanbases. If they died/get KOed, its not so silly.Besides, Thor has already killed the real FFF.
Agreed. Let's say if Konvikt was in Wendigo place, would it have been more interesting? And why?
After a fight, yes, he has killed FFF. Was Fing Fang insanely amped by the Wishing well though? Example if Supergirl and Batman fought and Supergirl mud stomped Batman...then a couple of month later, Batman received an amp that put him on Superman's level and Supergirl still stomped him, would you consider both of those fights as being the same?
Originally posted by carver9
Agreed. Let's say if Konvikt was in Wendigo place, would it have been more interesting? And why?After a fight, yes, he has killed FFF. Was Fing Fang insanely amped by the Wishing well though? Example if Supergirl and Batman fought and Supergirl mud stomped Batman...then a couple of month later, Batman received an amp that put him on Superman's level and Supergirl still stomped him, would you consider both of those fights as being the same?
Who is Konvikt, again? A one-time villain. Hell, I'd argue the Doomsday that DCnU Superman ripped apart is on par with these feats, once we separate the association we have with preboot Doomsday. But if we replaced Wendigo with, say, Darkseid or something, then yes (which is why H/P Doomsday gets such kudos).
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Who is Konvikt, again? A one-time villain. Hell, I'd argue the Doomsday that DCnU Superman ripped apart is on par with these feats, once we separate the association we have with preboot Doomsday. But if we replaced Wendigo with, say, Darkseid or something, then yes (which is why H/P Doomsday gets such kudos).
That's why you're my buddy, you're not bias at all (a little against Hulk though). At least you're always on the same page. So how many showings would a character have to have in order for you to get a gauge on their abilities/physical stats?
Originally posted by cdtm
You're probably thinking of his fight with God Slayer. Shockwaves from his hammer reach a planet in the distance, nearly breaking it to pieces and threatening the alien population.
Maybe. I read that a long time ago. Anyway that's extremely impressive and seeing as Thor has defeated Green Scar and Thing amped with Asgardian weapons there is no doubt he would have tanked WBH's shock wave.