Originally posted by carver9Lol. You're using a page where a character is clearly awake and was in mid speech...
That isn't enough proof though. That wasn't the only time empty speech bubbles were used in fear...hell, this isn't the only time. Empty speech bubbles doesn't mean anything, especially in the vacuum of space where sound is void.http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/Screenshot_2014-10-20-11-20-23_zps9a87895f.png.html
That's why I said along with Nul's body language and seemingly closed eyes.
Vacuum of space? Lol. Yeah cause comics always portrayed characters can't ever talk in space.
Originally posted by Psychotron
Oh, so Hulk's gonna laugh off attacks from BA literally weeks after WW3? lol and I bet you think Hulk can take on Monarch, too.You don't need to be a genius to know there's no air in space, carver. Nul was smart enough to form perfectly normal speech. A speech bubble can also be used to indicate someone is out or asleep like "..." Do you even read comics? And I'm still waiting for proof Thor's lightning sucks people into space btw.
You can hang that shit on your fridge, it doesn't mean squat.
Let me make this as simple as possible. An attack that can melt a being 17x more powerful than Hercules would definitely have an effect even on a skyfather, so either Umar is above skyfather (doubtful) or Hulk's attack just isn't that powerful.
Don't compare the two. Prime's been consistently shown to be outrageously powerful, things like busting out of the Phantom Zone, the Speed Force, moving around planets so fast they appear to be teleporting, etc. It fits. The statements about FFF being 17x Herc aren't backed by any feats. He's done nothing, it's all just hype.
Hulk tanked a punch from World Breaker She Rulk who is stronger than Adam and he also withstood attacks from peers of strength from people as strong as Savage Hulk. It's obvious really. You are on a denial road and is obviously lowballing. Maybe you need to actually think about this version of Hulks power level. That should help.
I already showed you a scan in fear of someone showing an empty speech bubble and he was powering up. Ok. Nothing wrong. Do i need to post another empty speech bubble from fear to prove this? Empty speech bubble is an action and someone knocked out doesn't do actions. I already provided proof of Nul being sucked up into lightning.
Or again, Umar shielded herself as shown in the freaking comic. Do you know what a shield is?
It doesn't matter what you think tbh. The Wishing well amped Foom. We was told how powerful the amp made him. It's pretty simple tbh. Also, everything you've said doesn't compare to tanking a universe busting attack. Superman and Hulk has similar fts to the stuff you've named from Prime. Neither would tank the destruction of a Universe. You're either being a hypocrite and accepting statements from one end to suit your argument or you honestly don't understand the concept of what Pak was throwing at us.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So you admit you're lowballing?After all, we use their full capacity - they fight to the best of their ability.
Why would you even bring up low end feats, unless you are lowballing?
Read some pages back, I said we debate off of average showings unless you think Prime is walking around with Universe busting durability, Superman and Surfer is walking around with Black Hole tanking durability, Luke Cage is walking around with Nuke level durability (hell, Wolverine has even withstood a Nuke), Gladiator is walking around with solar system busting durability. You know, if you're spoon feeding one, lets pass that spoon to all of them.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Lol. You're using a page where a character is clearly awake and was in mid speech...That's why I said along with Nul's body language and seemingly closed eyes.
Vacuum of space? Lol. Yeah cause comics always portrayed characters can't ever talk in space.
LHM. Speech bubbles is from someone that is awake. Lol.
Originally posted by carver9
Finally succumbing to his wounds? Is that why he died? I thought this was the reason...The only thing I'm asking you for is a scan backing your statement. Simple.
WTH? I have no idea what that scan has to do with anything. And yes, Thor died because he succumbed to his wound from the World Tree.
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
WTH? I have no idea what that scan has to do with anything. And yes, Thor died because he succumbed to his wound from the World Tree.
😐 The scan tells you why he died.
Wait a minute. Isn't the wound one of the reason Thor was brought back to life? If I am correct (and I think I am)...the wound helped him if anything. Let me see if I can find this. One sec. Could be wrong.
Originally posted by carver9
😐 The scan tells you why he died.Wait a minute. Isn't the wound one of the reason Thor was brought back to life? If I am correct (and I think I am)...the wound helped him if anything. Let me see if I can find this. One sec. Could be wrong.
The scan tells you why, the prophecy. It doesn't say how, he died from the wound. He came back by breaking free of the Demogorge, I don't think it had anything to do with the wound. Even if it did, it doesn't change the fact that it still killed him as well.
Originally posted by carver9
Your missing the point. The empty speech bubble happened a panel later. A single panel didn't pass until we see the speech bubble. By the way, what stance should he have been in while floating through space.
Also we know he wasn't teleported into space. Hopefully you don't believe that. He got smacked there which indicates travel... Which indicates a short time passed however brief it was.. But enough time for a short little nap.. 🙂
Originally posted by carver9
LHM. Speech bubbles is from someone that is awake. Lol.
I like most when waking up (and I bet you do too) groan or mutter when your stirring just before waking.
Nul just got lulled into a false sense of security then got smacked in the face full pelt by Thor. It isn't an unreasonable scenario for Nul to be KO'd.
I'll openly admit I am not 100% sure what scan you're talking of but I believe it is this one (if it's not correct me).
We clearly see a black shade on Nul's eye sockets. Here is the colour of Nul's eyes when he is awake.
And as we can see they are a pulsating bright orange. So there is no debate whether his eyes were open or not. We clearly know they were closed while in space.
What we see is an empty speech bubble. If you have read subtitles from any film unidentifiable noises are generally shown as (indistinguishable noise). But I don't think they are going to put that into a comic. There whole intention is to indicate Nul being taken out. And he is stirring. Much like me, you or most on this forum would of a morning. So you could be pedantic and say he was half awake but that is a bit silly.
We clearly see Nul regain some conciousness given that he uttered some words as he hurtled toward Earth. But he was definitely for a time KO'd when attacked by Thor which sent him rocketing into Space.
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
The scan tells you why, the prophecy. It doesn't say how, he died from the wound. He came back by breaking free of the Demogorge, I don't think it had anything to do with the wound. Even if it did, it doesn't change the fact that it still killed him as well.
The scan tells us why he died. He was meant to die in that battle as it was prophecy. Nothing was shown as it being the wound unless again, you have proof.
I have proof of something though. As I stated, the wound is the reason Thor came back to life. It helped him. If the wound wasn't there, he would still be dead.
Please provide proof backing your claims. Scan even tells you how Thor died.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
I like most when waking up (and I bet you do too) groan or mutter when your stirring just before waking.Nul just got lulled into a false sense of security then got smacke din the face full pelt by Thor. It isn't an unreasonable scenario for Nul to be KO'd.
I'll openly admit I am not 100% sure what scan you're talking of but I believe it is this one (if it's not correct me).
We clearly see a black shade on Nul's eye sockets. Here is the colour of Nul's eyes when he is awake.
And as we can see they are a pulsating bright orange. So there is no debate whether his eyes were open or not. We clearly know they were closed while in space.
What we see is an empty speech bubble. If you have read subtitles form any film unidentifiable noises are generally shown as (indistinguishable noise). But I don't think they are going to put that into a comic. There whole intention is to indicate Nul being taken out. And he is stirring. Much like me, you or most on this forum would of a morning. So you could be pedantic and say he was half awake but that is a bit silly.
We clearly see Nul regain some conciousness given that he uttered some words as he hurtled toward Earth. But he was for a time KO'd when attacked by Thor which sent him rocketing into Space.
Go back a couple of pages please. Not responding to this.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
A non laid-out stance.Also we know he wasn't teleported into space. Hopefully you don't believe that. He got smacked there which indicates travel... Which indicates a short time passed however brief it was.. But enough time for a short little nap.. 🙂
The shortest nap in existence?
Originally posted by carver9
Go back a couple of pages please. Not responding to this.
Well what is the point you are making that you are arguing against Celey etc?
Summarise it for me.
It seems to me you're still arguing the same thing. The last time these scans were brought up you argued that Thor really meant Hulk could beat him.
Apologies if I missed your or any other points by not reading back but please be sure to summarise.
I've made the same point as Celey just did yet you're choosing not to answer. I don't see why.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Well what is the point you are making that you are arguing against Celey etc?Summarise it for me.
It seems to me you're still arguing the same thing. The last time these scans were brought up you argued that Thor really meant Hulk could beat him.
Apologies if I missed your or any other points by not reading back but please be sure to summarise.
You posted the same scans Celey posted. I already responded to that, in spades. Don't want to repeat a 5 page topic.
Originally posted by carver9
You posted the same scans Celey posted. I already responded to that, in spades. Don't want to repeat a 5 page topic.
Well you are arguing the same point now. So if you didn't want to continue it you should've stopped. As you have said he has brought up them scans but from reading this page you are still speaking of the same thing.
How is the debate any different now?
Why don't you believe what we're saying. What makes it so wrong and you right?
