Maul & Savage vs. 4 Council Member

Originally posted by ares834
Ah, no. That's exactly what he was saying. He is claiming that the quote lists of all of the greatest swordsmen of the order, which could be possible but isn't necessary.

But it does list the greatest swordsmen of the order. Yoda, Mace, Skywalker, Dooku, Kenobi all have a ton of exposure suggesting they are far, far above the likes of the B-team. Depa's performance against Mace suggest she is. Why would Shaak Ti be any different? Why would they just lump her in with the top five duelists of the order for shits?

The quote could have easily read just as well without Shaak Ti's inclusion.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Again, it's Drallig, not Ti.

No it isn't the most up to date version of that quote is Shaak Ti.

Hardly. Two quotes calling her a good swordsman don't put her on the level of a guy who has defeated Vader and Maul/Savage.

The quotes don't say she's a good swordsman. Dooku specifically singles her, Kenobi, Mace and Yoda out of the Jedi Council.

No it isn't the most up to date version of that quote is Shaak Ti.

Except I bought a brand new copy of the book at the store the other day, and it still says Drallig. Furthermore, you're the only person I've ever heard saying that Shaak replaces Drallig in the text. Do you actually own a copy that says Ti?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Except I bought a brand new copy of the book at the store the other day, and it still says Drallig. Furthermore, you're the only person I've ever heard saying that Shaak replaces Drallig in the text. Do you actually own a copy that says Ti?

The other day? I call BS. And yes, not to mention Cin being there makes no sense considering he was never on the Council.

"I pity you should you have to face off against any of the Council members. Must I demonstrate what would happen should you fight Obi-Wan Kenobi or Shaak Ti, Mace Windu, or stars help you, Yoda?"

I did, actually.

Anyway, if you own a copy that says that, I'm curious--take a snapshot of the page and upload it. Don't need a scan or anything fancy like that.

Just copied and pasted that quote into Google. The only result was from Lord Stark. 😐 I'll go check my copy, brb.

Alright, the book I have was from 2005. My dad was able to get it only a couple weeks after released:
"Do I need to demonstrate what responses you can expect from Cin Drallig or Obi-Wan Kenobi? From Mace Windu or, stars help you, Yoda?"

Same.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
"I pity you should you have to face off against any of the Council members. Must I demonstrate what would happen should you fight Obi-Wan Kenobi or Shaak Ti, Mace Windu, or stars help you, Yoda?"

According to the internet, all physical editions of the book were printed in 2005, only foreign versions being more recent than that.

There is an E-book that was released in May of this year, but Shaak Ti being in the quote has been mentioned since long before then.

So yeah, I'd be interested in actually seeing the page.

EDIT: Don't go overboard, Ant.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Don't go overboard, Ant.

This thread is filled with So many Shaak Ti quotes. I kinda wanna make a respect thread for her now.

To be honest, I could do that.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
To be honest, I could do that.

You offering to help? or do you wanna go at it by yourself? I'd be up for making a "joint" respect thread(is that a thing?) but if you wanna do it yourself have it boo.

Also what if AncientPower wants to do one?

It's probably one I could handle myself, and it may be a good starter to prepare for longer respect threads I still plan to make.

The only time I think it's necessary to make a joint respect thread is when the project is massive--Such as a Luke respect thread or the like.

However, I'm unfamiliar with Comicvine's format, so some info on how the general respect thread layout works would be appreciated if I'm going to do one of these.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
It's probably one I could handle myself, and it may be a good starter to prepare for longer respect threads I still plan to make.

The only time I think it's necessary to make a joint respect thread is when the project is massive--Such as a Luke respect thread or the like.

However, I'm unfamiliar with Comicvine's format, so some info on how the general respect thread layout works would be appreciated if I'm going to do one of these.

If you want i could help you get familiar with the format, though you could also ask DarthAnt66, he seems like the more ... logical choice. Your choice to be honest, good luck regardless.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
It's probably one I could handle myself, and it may be a good starter to prepare for longer respect threads I still plan to make.

The only time I think it's necessary to make a joint respect thread is when the project is massive--Such as a Luke respect thread or the like.

However, I'm unfamiliar with Comicvine's format, so some info on how the general respect thread layout works would be appreciated if I'm going to do one of these.

The Council would probably win. Savage is a weak link and adding Shaak Ti is some major overkill.

Originally posted by Aurbere
The Council would probably win. Savage is a weak link and adding Shaak Ti is some major overkill.

I'm not sure what you mean by Savage being a weak link. He's not as strong as Maul for sure, but I don't think he's any weaker than his contemporaries.

But yeah, having a fourth fighter on the side of the Councillors tipped the scales drastically in their favor.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I'm not sure what you mean by Savage being a weak link. He's not as strong as Maul for sure, but I don't think he's any weaker than his contemporaries.

But yeah, having a fourth fighter on the side of the Councillors tipped the scales drastically in their favor.

Well, when I say Savage is the weak link, I'm saying that he's lacking in a few categories. Speed and skill being the ones that are usually pointed to.

Basically, I have no doubt Savage could hold his own against any one of these opponents. But two or more at a time is too much, especially masters of this caliber.

What the Council can do now is isolate the two of them and use superior numbers to overwhelm them.

Sorry if it's incoherent, it's a bit late for me.

Ah, welcome Aurbere. Good to have you.