People who can defeat Sidious?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
In the Jedi Path it notes that Yoda had began declining since he hit 600-700 years old.

Physically, or in the force? Palpatine was declining physically as of ROTJ, but he'd slaughter his youthful self on account of his mastery and increase of force power. Also, IIRC, one of the movie encyclopedia's attributes Yoda's power to living over 800 years, but I could be mistaken.

Do you have the quote? I know the quote about his claim to not being able to lift those stones is contradicted by his consistent showings.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I planned on it, haven't caught your attention in a while. Come to TOF, my master.

Very well.

Do you have the quote? I know the quote about his claim to not being able to lift those stones is contradicted by his consistent showings.

Even if his inability to lift the stones (which have undefined weight) is inconsistent, the fact that he was no longer able to lift more than five post-700 means he was declining since then as a force wielder.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Even if his inability to lift the stones (which have undefined weight) is inconsistent, the fact that he was no longer able to lift more than five post-700 means he was declining since then as a force wielder.

If it's inconsistent to superior feats then it wouldn't be a fact, which wouldn't be conclusive evidence of declining in the force.

Although, if the stones' weight were undefined then a case could be made. I thought they were defined, though? Regardless, I doubt that their weight approaches that of the landing crafts he destroyed. Furthermore, the only time age hindered a force users strength in the force, from what I can recall, is either if they are not actively using the force, or if they are dying and using the force to keep them alive. A force users connection to the force is deepened through meditation, which Yoda constantly does.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Most of that list has next to no chance, really.

No, not really.

Yoda is the only force user who has a real chance of truly defeating Sidious, aside from the obvious posted in the OP or other god-like entities. Even though Sidious has his force storms, Yoda's speed would be sufficient to keep Sidious from using one mid combat.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Yoda with superior TK and raw force power, and not tiring out...yeah I think he has a good shot. Prime Yoda is certainly superior to BM enhanced DE Luke.

Based on what? Absolutely nothing.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
If it's inconsistent to superior feats then it wouldn't be a fact, which wouldn't be conclusive evidence of declining in the force.

Although, if the stones' weight were undefined then a case could be made. I thought they were defined, though? Regardless, I doubt that their weight approaches that of the landing crafts he destroyed. Furthermore, the only time age hindered a force users strength in the force, from what I can recall, is either if they are not actively using the force, or if they are dying and using the force to keep them alive. A force users connection to the force is deepened through meditation, which Yoda constantly does.

All that's said about the stones is that they were multi-ton.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Yoda is the only force user who has a real chance of truly defeating Sidious, aside from the obvious posted in the OP or other god-like entities. Even though Sidious has his force storms, Yoda's speed would be sufficient to keep Sidious from using one mid combat.

Isn't the Hero of Umbara a better duelist than Yoda tho? 😛

Also... Mace?

The Hero of Tython could beat Palpatine and I expect the Barsen'thor could too. Both of them are heckuva powerful.

😄

Han Solo 😎

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Physically, or in the force? Palpatine was declining physically as of ROTJ, but he'd slaughter his youthful self on account of his mastery and increase of force power. Also, IIRC, one of the movie encyclopedia's attributes Yoda's power to living over 800 years, but I could be mistaken.

Do you have the quote? I know the quote about his claim to not being able to lift those stones is contradicted by his consistent showings.

The Force, he was unable to move more than five of the Muntuur stones after the age of 700. By the time of ROTS Yoda has been past his prime for nigh 200 years.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Han Solo 😎

Hoho, correct!

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Even if his inability to lift the stones (which have undefined weight) is inconsistent, the fact that he was no longer able to lift more than five post-700 means he was declining since then as a force wielder.

We know how much they weigh, 1 stone each with the final stone weighing 5.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Isn't the Hero of Umbara a better duelist than Yoda tho? 😛

Also... Mace?

Hero of Umbara isn't Canon.

Who is, anymore. uhuh

Though yeah, probably not.

I dunno, the story arcs from the game *are* canon.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I dunno, the story arcs from the game *are* canon.

Debatable.

Either way, mini games aren't.

Why is DE Sids being assumed? And does OP mean majority or just in any instance?