Luke, Yoda, Mace (under special circumstances), Caedus, Plagueis... Not sure about Nihilus, as Sidious is so much faster and is confirmed as more powerful than Nihilus anyway.
Preped/amped Vitiate has a shot in the force, but in a duel he gets crashed.
The opposite is true for RoT Bane. In sabers he has a shot (mainly due to Orbalisk), but in the force Sidious clearly wins.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Yoda level?! You're killing me, guy! 😆
So did you just miss the link I provided?
Also it's interesting that you can't provide evidence yourself.
Originally posted by Sinious
I doubt that he is serious.
I am totally serious. Unlike some people I actually consider the facts. I don't just go "yurr Yoda (etc.) wins cos he's Yoda (etc.) and wuz in de movies durr."
Originally posted by chilled monkeyAnyone on this planet who would compare Satele ****ING Shan, someone who's basically around Revan's level, to YODA of all people, is a moron. Not just you, but ANYONE who would compare them.
So did you just miss the link I provided?Also it's interesting that you can't provide evidence yourself.
I am totally serious. Unlike some people I actually consider the facts. I don't just go "yurr Yoda (etc.) wins cos he's Yoda (etc.) and wuz in de movies durr."
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Satele really isn't Revan level.
Speaking of Revan, how far above Revan do you place Vitiate on neutral ground. Do you think if their confrontation had happened off a nexus that Revan would have had a chance of scoring a victory?
Edit: I'm referring to Vitiate as he was in the Revan novel.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Speaking of Revan, how far above Revan do you place Vitiate on neutral ground. Do you think if their confrontation had happened off a nexus that Revan would have had a chance of scoring a victory?Edit: I'm referring to Vitiate as he was in the Revan novel.
Well, in the novel it's stated twice that Revan couldn't fight the emperor for long and that he'd have little chance of winning alone, and I doubt Revan was taking the nexus into consideration. That said, even if he did, Revan still has little chance of defeating him, IMO.
I don't think DE Sidious is more capable in combat than he was in RotS.
By RotS Sidious is already the most powerful Sith with complete knowledge of Rule of Two who went through countless trials under Plagueis. There is simply no room for improvement. Force Storm is the only difference but that's just a technique, it doesn't prove that he got more powerful.
Sidious gathered a huge reserve of Force lore between RotS and RotJ, and then got himself into a new, healthy young body in DE. I doubt that he's peaked by RotS; remember that Dooku was in his 70s in TPM and still growing stronger, and Palpatine not only has a higher ceiling, but also starting his training at a later age. I also doubt that Force storms and essence transfer are the only new technique Sidious has learned in another 30+ years of studying the dark side. It's not as though he's omniscient by RotS.
Originally posted by ArhaelSidious did indeed get more powerful.
I don't think DE Sidious is more capable in combat than he was in RotS.By RotS Sidious is already the most powerful Sith with complete knowledge of Rule of Two who went through countless trials under Plagueis. There is simply no room for improvement. Force Storm is the only difference but that's just a technique, it doesn't prove that he got more powerful.