Revan vs Darth Maul

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Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!

Ventress did well against Maul in their clashes in TCW, smacking him around with kicks twice. She's not that far below him imo.

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Originally posted by Nephthys
Ventress did well against Maul in their clashes in TCW, smacking him around with kicks twice. She's not that far below him imo.

I thought that was BS, personally. Not so much her dueling evenly with him, but the fact she was kicking him so frequently. Martial arts is one of the core elements of his character, not Ventress'. But that's TCW writers for you, lol.

I see them as more or less equal as duelists, but Maul is better overall physically and more powerful.

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!

Agree. But only a little bit. Ventress, Savage, Maul and Obi-Wan are all around the same tier imo.

I find it odd how Maul with his obsessive, somewhat excessive, training is equaled in lightsaber skill by duelists like Obi-Wan and Ventress. Who are much less well trained and less powerful.

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Originally posted by Nephthys
Agree. But only a little bit. Ventress, Savage, Maul and Obi-Wan are all around the same tier imo.

I find it odd how Maul with his obsessive, somewhat excessive, training is equaled in lightsaber skill by duelists like Obi-Wan and Ventress. Who are much less well trained and less powerful.


I'd say Ventress, Kenobi and Maul are all equal as duelists. I don't really know where Savage is in terms of raw skill, but in terms of his ability to just fight and be a threat, he's a tier below them.

Well, I mean, he did spend twelve years in inhospitable conditions with no training. That would have allowed them to catch up to him.

NewGuy01 perpetual
Never suggested that.

Oh?

I personally think that Vader would defeat Revan in a really close fight but Revan has a decent chance too unlike Maul
His peak (ROTJ) version would TK Maul's ass.

I think you did.

FreshestSlice Eternal Commander

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Don't get me wrong, I think Revan wins this one very solidly...

but I find it sad that Maul has less votes in his favor here than Ventress did on the Ventress vs Revan thread.


Agreed.

Marco1907 Great Sith Lord

Maul.

And no, Vader & Dooku are not one tier ahead of Maul, because Lucas said so.

Both Vader and Dooku have significant weaknesses.

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by Marco1907
Maul.

Shocker.

FreshestSlice Eternal Commander

Originally posted by Marco1907
And no, Vader & Dooku are not one tier ahead of Maul, because Lucas said so.

No he really didn't, and even if he did, Lucas hasn't determined canon since 2012.

Marco1907 Great Sith Lord
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
No he really didn't, and even if he did, Lucas hasn't determined canon since 2012.

Look at Maul vs. Vader topic, I have a surprise for you. (Another source)

FreshestSlice Eternal Commander

Look, you've been spamming that same quote for months now. It doesn't say what you think it does.

Sinious Yo Da Best

Originally posted by NewGuy01

I think you did.

Ok maybe I kinda did. 😮

In all seriousness, I didnt mean to say Maul can't give Revan or Vader a decent fight. I just meant that they both have the upper hand solidly against Maul. Both can keep up with him as duelists(especially Vader) and overwhelm him in the force.

Originally posted by Skybreaker

More substantively, I do not see Maul possessing anywhere near the ridiculous array of Force abilities Revan has acquired, demonstrating clearly the depth and breadth of his mastery and understanding of the Force, nor do I really see Maul lasting more than 2 seconds against Vitiate.

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I can see Revan overwhelming Maul in the Force due to having an actual means of dispatching him (lightning, ect), but Vader literally only has telekinesis as a combative means of hurting Maul with the Force. Not only can Vader not overwhelm him with telekinesis, he can't really put him out for good with it, unless he's generating more force than a 100 foot fall these days.

Do people really see Vader vs Maul and think "hmm Vader has stronger TK he wins cus TK" and think that's the end of it?

Sinious Yo Da Best

Vader wouldn't have to rely on the force as much as Revan does.

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I agree. I just don't see how people come to the conclusion that in any scenario Vader would stomp/overwhelm or "solidly" defeat Maul. Any fight between them would be close to say the least.

Sinious Yo Da Best

Well unless there is a huge power gap between characters, you'll always see a decent fight in SW universe which makes sense even though sometimes its just due to pure PIS.

Jmanghan Senior Member

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
No he really didn't, and even if he did, Lucas hasn't determined canon since 2012.
Lucas is still the original creator. Canon of Lucas > Canon of Leland Chee, Disney, or any other source.

G-Canon = George-Canon.

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Originally posted by Sinious
Well unless there is a huge power gap between characters, you'll always see a decent fight in SW universe which makes sense even though sometimes its just due to pure PIS.

True to some extent, but that doesn't mean that Maul can't and wouldn't give Vader the fight of his life.

Sinious Yo Da Best

Lets stick to somewhere in between "gives Vader the fight of his life" and "Vader wins with mid difficulty"

Jmanghan Senior Member

I still think Maul could take it with his Saber skill, he isn't fast enough to keep up with Maul.