RotS Dooku vs DoE Bane

Originally posted by ILS
Jesus Christ.. you really can't make mention of a nexus on this board can you? Is it seriously not reasonable to state that the way we look at feats need to be dialed down if they were performed on a nexus, and that character is no longer on said nexus?

The more butthurt side of the community prefers to close their eyes and pretend they don't exist. Just something y'gotta get used to here, I suppose.

Dooku on Vjun felt confident in taking on Yoda. Because of a DS nexus.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
The more butthurt side of the community prefers to close their eyes and pretend they don't exist. Just something y'gotta get used to here, I suppose.

And it's not like Bane is unimpressive without Nexus, he still has good feats.

That has nothing to do with what I said.

Originally posted by Liberal P
Reach harder. He describes it as a nexus, adds that he felt ''strong'' there, then noted that the creatures would be amplified by the same power [that he was being amplified by].

I feel strong and rejuvenated when I take in the morning air. It doesn't mean I'm boosted beyond my normal means. Animals on places strong in the darkside are naturally infused with the power due to long periods of time exposed to it. It's not the same thing.

As I said, Bane had to consciously tap into a nexus in DoE. It isn't an automatic boost.

Originally posted by ILS
Jesus Christ.. you really can't make mention of a nexus on this board can you? Is it seriously not reasonable to state that the way we look at feats need to be dialed down if they were performed on a nexus, and that character is no longer on said nexus?

People on this forum use nexuses only to dismiss feats and shit on the characters associated with them. Of course there is resistance.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
That has nothing to do with what I said.

No, but it looks like Nexus amps are denied because, apparently, that would make characters unimpressive. I was just saying this is not the case.

Originally posted by Nargaroth
No, but it looks like Nexus amps are denied because, apparently, that would make characters unimpressive. I was just saying this is not the case.

It isn't that they're unimpressive, they're just not as impressive as some want them to be.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
It isn't that they're unimpressive, they're just not as impressive as some want them to be.

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Originally posted by ILS
Jesus Christ.. you really can't make mention of a nexus on this board can you? Is it seriously not reasonable to state that the way we look at feats need to be dialed down if they were performed on a nexus, and that character is no longer on said nexus?

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Oops, I knew this fight was done before (although as a part of team vs team fight).

Anyways, to quote myself:

Originally posted by Stigma
Ok, so I gave it some thought, and here is my analysis:

Dooku vs. DoE Bane

[b]Sabers:
Dooku is considered to be one of the best duelists in Jedi History. He’s a master of ultimate dueling form-Makashi. He was able to contend with Yoda, and is more or less equal to Windu, he effortlessly saber-handled Grievous and Ventress (CW mini). Dooku is faster than Kenobi, who is himself extremely fast. Again, Dooku was able to compete with Yoda, who himself is an absolute top tier speed-wise.

DoE Bane is a Djem So practitioner with of one of the fastest learning rates in history. He was able to match Kas’im only a after relatively brief training. Bested Rastka Lsu (though when enhanced by the Orbalisks), was beating Zannah, who is said (I believe) to be extremely proficient with Soresu. His DoE rain feat is pretty uber. He is physically powerful and his Djem So might be problematic for Dooku to handle, but not to a degree of Anakin’s Djem So. (Anakin can dish out more raw power). DoE Bane has his uber rain feat (though some pointed out that rain drops travels slower than blaster bolts). Nevertheless, it was a middle of a pouring rain so his speed must be extreme.

Force:
Dooku seems to have better TK feats like collapsing caves, collapsing bridges, TKing Jedi of Kenobi’s caliber effortlessly, his FL was powerful enough to kill Kiffari warriors, to easily subdue Ventress, Anakin, Savage and while drugged and blinded he used it to beat Ventress and and two other nigthsisters.

TBH I’m not well-versed in DoE Bane force powers. I assume his FL is more or less the same as his RoT incarnation and thus seems to be more powerful than Dooku’s. His TK is impressive, but I cannot remember any of Bane’s TK feats from DoE. Bane possesses some unique skills like death field, but I’m not sure if it will come into play in this setting.

All-out: I’m inclined to give it to Dooku. Overall he is a superior duelist, his force feats are better, though DoE Bane most probably has a more powerful FL. Speed-wise DoE Bane might be faster, but not to a degree that will make a difference. Dooku 7/10
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I feel strong and rejuvenated when I take in the morning air. It doesn't mean I'm boosted beyond my normal means. Animals on places strong in the darkside are naturally infused with the power due to long periods of time exposed to it. It's not the same thing.

As I said, Bane had to consciously tap into a nexus in DoE. It isn't an automatic boost.

The animals on Dxun were amped and didn't have to "consciously" tap into any nexus and Bane was aware of the fact this was unnatural, and only because of the latent darkside energies of the planet. Bane was amped on Dxun, amped on Tython, amped on Lehon, and amped on Korriban as well.

Yet he wasn't afraid. Even before Nadds tomb had been hidden here, the ancient Sith had been drawn to Dxun. The Jedi had condemned it as a place of evil, but Bane recognized it for what it really was: a world infused with the power of the darkside. He felt strong here, rejuvenated, though he was smart enough to understand that the creatures prowling the wilderness would be drawing on that same power

Bane was drawing on that nexus whether you want to admit or not and even confirmed it.

People on this forum use nexuses only to dismiss feats and shit on the characters associated with them. Of course there is resistance.

Bane's feats literally take place on nexuses and his feats off nexus are plainly inferior due to not having an amp. There is no reason to believe Bane's can replicate anything he did on Lehon, Korriban, Dxun, or Tython because his own feats are plainly inferior to what he accomplished off world in comparison to the feats that are wanked costantly.

And back to the topic Dooku destroys Bane

Well I see you wasted no time in going back to what you were doing before.

Anyway, leaning Dooku.

Only because this is a blatant mismatch. In terms of Skill Bane isn't on Dooku's level, he's more on par with Qui Gon Jinn, Quinlan Vos, Savage Opress etc.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Anyway, leaning Dooku.

Leaning Dooku. Bane poses a real threat, but I think Dooku would be the victor.

Anakin was a threat to Dooku, Dooku is faster, more skilled, likely as powerful, and a better duelist (by miles)

Originally posted by carthage
Anakin was a threat to Dooku, Dooku is faster, more skilled, likely as powerful, and a better duelist (by miles)

Well, Dooku is a better duelist, but I think Bane is able to contend with him on other fronts. Strength, both physical and in the Force, for one.

Dooku can minimize Bane's superior strength like he did to Savage by either dodging him or utilizing his superior force abilities. Dooku is faster than Bane

Again Dooku is likely more powerful (hurling tons of boulders onto Tholme, ragdolling Ventress, Vos, and Kenobi, hurling down a crane with a gesture, and collapsing caves are all superior feats to anything displayed by DOE Bane.

Originally posted by carthage
Dooku can minimize Bane's superior strength like he did to Savage by either dodging him or utilizing his superior force abilities. Dooku is faster than Bane

Again Dooku is likely more powerful (hurling tons of boulders onto Tholme, ragdolling Ventress, Vos, and Kenobi, hurling down a crane with a gesture, and collapsing caves are all superior feats to anything displayed by DOE Bane.

Well, I can agree to a certain extent. I don't support Bane over Dooku, so I'll let it go.