Originally posted by Inhuman
Superman & Batman have been the worlds most popular and recognizable heroes for more than half a century in pop culture and among earths population of human beings.This isn't debatable.
Hey, I agree that they're up there, but times have changed. If you have more than your words, then please share.
I'll just post this. ERod is the biggest DC fan and is disappointed with the DCEU.
If a DC fan like ERod is disappointed, then Warner bros and DC are doing something wrong. By the way I like ERod's reviews of movies regardless if he likes DC or hate it.
Originally posted by Zack M
if you have anything to back up your claims, go right ahead. But you're here just to antagonize. Keep up the good work, Stilt. 👆
We're here to discuss movies.
Box office numbers are completely secondary and spamming threads with them is borderline nonsensical, as you've been told before.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
We're here to discuss movies.Box office numbers are completely secondary and spamming threads with them is borderline nonsensical, as you've been told before.
Bo is movie related. And nobody ever said I couldn't talk bo numbers. Keep on spamming with gifs and pics, though. Lol
I could care less, tbh. Like I said, I have no problem calling Superman the most iconic, but not the most popular. I spoke to someone from Ethiopia and she said that Superman is well known, but Spidey is the most popular over there. I'm just calling it how I see it. Now if you have any evidence to back up your claim, go right ahead and post it. I'll concede if it's a good source.
Think you're confusing me with Inhuman.
Yeah, Superdouche's always been crap. It's how America sees themselves, not how the world sees them, that's why most of the planet likes Batman more uhuh
And yes, Parker appeals to more, too.
Feels good that Clark 'died' in BvS, too bad he's already recovering at the end of it...
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Think you're confusing me with Inhuman.Yeah, Superdouche's always been crap. It's how America sees themselves, not how the world sees them, that's why most of the planet likes Batman more uhuh
And yes, Parker appeals to more, too.
Feels good that Clark 'died' in BvS, too bad he's already recovering at the end of it...
There would have been a time when Superman WAS the most popular. Not only was he widely well known, but his comics even sold way into the millions.
However, with Marvel pushing their merchandise world wide, the popularity of the Sam Remi movies, and everything in-between, Spider-Man has not only closed the gap, but relates to more people as a whole, like you said. TBH, I've met a lot of people who don't give a shit about Superman. 😂
This is the reason why Kevin Tsujihara pushed more movies and TV on DC heroes, so they can spread across all mediums. This is how characters get known and become more popular.
Originally posted by Zack M
MOS isn't THAT far off from Dr. Strange, so I guess we can say MOS almost made 700? I don't consider that much of an accomplishment, since their is some inflation.690 would be close to 700, not 677.
And you're going back on what you said earlier: Iron Man guarantees a billion. He's teaming with the worlds most recognized super-hero, Spider-Man. I'd be more inclined to say SM: Homecoming does more, but you could be right.
Oh jeez stop with the nitpicking. And I'm not sure why inflation is an issue for Dr. Strange, given it came out last year and we're predicting the box office for films out this year.
What does it matter what MOS made now? I was predicting a Billion plus for BvS but it made no where near that much due to a very poor multiplier.
What the heck? I'm not backtracking on Iron Man. This isn't a Spider-Man/Iron Man team up movie as far as I'm aware. But not hiding that Iron Man is in the film is a smart move to make it clear this 3rd incarnation of Spider-Man in the last 10 years is very different to the previous versions because it's in the MCU.
So I'm not sure with Spider-Man. It certainly does have the potential.. But if I were to guess I'd say Spider-Man outperforms Wonder Woman, and Ragnarok outperforms JL.
Originally posted by Inhuman
Superman & Batman have been the worlds most popular and recognizable heroes for more than half a century in pop culture and among earths population of human beings.This isn't debatable.
I think they're the most famous, but I think Spider-Man's the most popular tbh. Kids everywhere especially love Spidey.
But you're right a guy in a cave is more likely to recognise Superman. But I'd say that's fame more than popularity.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Oh jeez stop with the nitpicking. And I'm not sure why inflation is an issue for Dr. Strange, given it came out last year and we're predicting the box office for films out this year.What does it matter what MOS made now? I was predicting a Billion plus for BvS but it made no where near that much due to a very poor multiplier.
What the heck? I'm not backtracking on Iron Man. This isn't a Spider-Man/Iron Man team up movie as far as I'm aware. But not hiding that Iron Man is in the film is a smart move to make it clear this 3rd incarnation of Spider-Man in the last 10 years is very different to the previous versions because it's in the MCU.
So I'm not sure with Spider-Man. It certainly does have the potential.. But if I were to guess I'd say Spider-Man outperforms Wonder Woman, and Ragnarok outperforms JL.
Nah, you said IM is generally a guarantee for a billion dollar movie. IM is in the next Spidey film, so by your logic, SM: Homecoming should hit a billion. That's what you said!! 🙂
TBH, I wouldn't be surprised if it hit 1B. Maybe 2B.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
I think they're the most famous, but I think Spider-Man's the most popular tbh. Kids everywhere especially love Spidey.But you're right a guy in a cave is more likely to recognise Superman. But I'd say that's fame more than popularity.
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Spidey is probably just as famous as the big 2 at Marvel at this point. All 3 of them are widely well known. Spidey is more popular with the recent generations, IMO. Batman can compete, but Superman? Nah. lol
Originally posted by Zack M
Nah, you said IM is generally a guarantee for a billion dollar movie. IM is in the next Spidey film, so by your logic, SM: Homecoming should hit a billion. That's what you said!! 🙂TBH, I wouldn't be surprised if it hit 1B. Maybe 2B.
I meant in movies where he's the first or second main character. I didn't mean he can just show up in someone else's movie, and Bang 1Bill guaranteed lol
Homecoming by all rights should gross 1Bill, but like I said all depends on how tired audiences are of Spidey reboots. Which is why they need IM in this. Make it clear this is the MCU. Because Civil War didn't quite get the audience an Avengers movie gets. And Spidey's presence in it wasn't as well known as you think.
$ 800-900 mill should be a safe bet though for Homecoming.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
I meant in movies where he's the first or second main character. I didn't mean he can just show up in someone else's movie, and Bang 1Bill guaranteed lolHomecoming by all rights should gross 1Bill, but like I said all depends on how tired audiences are of Spidey reboots. Which is why they need IM in this. Make it clear this is the MCU. Because Civil War didn't quite get the audience an Avengers movie gets. And Spidey's presence in it wasn't as well known as you think.
$ 800-900 mill should be a safe bet though for Homecoming.
Yes, but does the GA know that? At the end Of the trailer we see Iron Man and Spidey race off together. People are thinking they will fight together. Kind of like Hulk and Thor in Ragnarock.
Originally posted by Zack M
Yes, but does the GA know that? At the end Of the trailer we see Iron Man and Spidey race off together. People are thinking they will fight together. Kind of like Hulk and Thor in Ragnarock.
Agree Homecoming will be huge. And if it can replicate the success of SM1 today, then it would fly over the Billion mark. But it's still the 3rd SM in 10 years so that's why I think it's hard to predict. Who knows.