Exar Kun vs. General Grievous.

Started by ILS8 pages

The difference being you actually conceded that Filoni's opinion was not fact, by referencing that it as an opinion. You undermined your own argument before discontinuing the debate. At least in this thread it's clear to see you don't actually have a point to make so there's not much point in replying to you.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
DP's a good guy, he just really hates that Sidious is a zillion times better than Maul and Obi-Wan. He tries to live in this artificial reality where Obi-Wan and Maul are like totes close to Sidious in "Pure Sabers" and Sidious is like totes threatened by the likes of Obi-Wan and Maul. Like, DP's pants erupt at the thought of a Maul/Obi-Wan vs. Sidious scenario where the duo don't die in less than ten seconds.

He's jealous. Jealous that Sidious is a lot smarter, stronger, faster, more powerful, more successful, and better looking than Obi-Wan and Maul combined.

But I'll break him eventually. I always do.


Yet another thread turned into Sidious wankery...

Originally posted by ILS
The difference being you actually conceded that Filoni's opinion was not fact, by referencing that it as an opinion.

So what? Your opinion is now greater/= Filoni's

LMAO.

Originally posted by ILS
You undermined your own argument before discontinuing the debate. At least in this thread it's clear to see you don't actually have a point to make so there's not much point in replying to you.

Yes because it's so difficult to grasp my point here isn't it:

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
You're saying Koth didn't have the advantage over him until the Magnaguards joined in?

The magnaguards were clearly ordered to join in if Koth gains any kind of advantage and he did via Tk.

Even in Sabers Koth was fending off Grievous with a wounded arm. So yes Koth did very well in that fight given all of the advantages in Grievous's favor.

Yes Grievous does do very well against all these high caliber Jedi/Sith in Pure Sabers. But they all defeated him with Tk.

How about you stop trolling me now please. Either continue to debate or don't. I know I'd prefer you didn't waste my time.

But enough of this:

"LOL DP TALKS NONESENSE, SO I DON'T NEED TO REPSOND TO HIM AM I RITE???!!"
bullcrap please.

Yet another thread turned into Sidious wankery...

Another thread claimed for the truthbringers, you mean.

Originally posted by Arhael
Yet another thread turned into Sidious wankery...

Originally posted by Arhael
Yet another thread turned into Sidious wankery...
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Originally posted by DARTH POWER
On this particular thread, I'd probably go with Arhael's opinion, that Kun has never faced anyone like him and has the disadvanatge (since it is Pure Sabers).

To be fair, GG hasn't ever faced a double-bladed lightsaber either that I know of, although I do believe he does possess Zannah's lightsaber in his collection. Still, Kun's lightsaber and fighting style is extremely unique.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
fyi

It wasn't that long ago that DP wanked Grievous moderately in an attempt to lowball Fisto and the B-Team next to Obi-Wan.

Wait... How would wanking Grievous lowball Fisto when Fisto had him beat? I was arguing at that time that Fisto beating Grievous isn't all that, because Grievous isn't all that. So I think you're misplacing me in a debate you've had with Arhael Iirc.

Me though, I've never had a particularly high opinion of Grievous since like ROTS.

Funny thing is my opinion of him is actually higher now than it's ever been. Filoni's comments on him defeating Jedi/Sith only through fear and intimidation, added to him actually defeating Kenobi in the unaired S6 arc makes me believe Grievous can actually be a threat to any Jedi/Sith (Edit -except Yoda and Sidious before you have a heart attack).

All he has to do is have those weapons of Fear, Intimidation (and possibly Surprise) on his side, like we know Dooku taught him all those years ago in the OCW and in LOE, and he will be a threat.

Originally posted by Nephthys
To be fair, GG hasn't ever faced a double-bladed lightsaber either that I know of, although I do believe he does possess Zannah's lightsaber in his collection. Still, Kun's lightsaber and fighting style is extremely unique.

You might be right. Kun was quite unorthodox, and the only ones using a Double Bladed Saber in Clone Wars era were Opress and Krell. But neither of them faced Grievous.

Tempest is desperate, if there isnt one thread mentioning Sidious he suffers from withdrawals and posts something about him anyway

Ya know I just gotta question this....but people bring up this Unorthodox thing for Kun regarding saber skill.

But....the only thing I can note that would be Unorthodox is him wielding his double bladed saber one handed.

That is what people are bringing up right? Because....the guys he has fought against, I didn't see anything really unorthodox from him and those he fought were able to do well still despite this advantage.

Originally posted by carthage
Tempest is desperate, if there isnt one thread mentioning Sidious he suffers from withdrawals and posts something about him anyway

He's just seen someone is arguing with me so is taking the opportunity to jump in and try to get under my skin. I know as a fact he doesn't rate Grievous anywhere near as highly as ILS does (not since TCW at least). But he'd prefer to jump at me because I dared suggest Sidious can't speed blitz Maul.

Yep that right Sidious CAN NOT Speed Blitz Darth Maul. He's Not Capable of such a thing. He can only do such things to The B-Team level and below.

But the B-Team are complete amateurs next to "The Great Sith Lord Darth Maul" - as Count Dooku would put it.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Wait... How would wanking Grievous lowball Fisto when Fisto had him beat? I was arguing at that time that Fisto beating Grievous isn't all that, because Grievous isn't all that. So I think you're misplacing me in a debate you've had with Arhael Iirc.

Nah, you were talking about how Fisto had to cheat and had Grievous been using four lightsabers or whatever it would have been a different matter. Some such nonsense.

But you've learned. You please me. Your inevitable conversion to Sheevism will please me even more. excellent

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Nah, you were talking about how Fisto had to cheat and had Grievous been using four lightsabers or whatever it would have been a different matter. Some such nonsense.

Ah yes I remember what you're talking about now. Not quite my wording, but I was just compering the context of that fight next to Kenobi's in ROTS. Doesn't matter now that Grievous has beaten Kenobi once.

In any case I've never had a particularly high opinion of Grievous. Making excuses for his losses is the job of ILS and DarhAnt.

DP
He's just seen someone is arguing with me so is taking the opportunity to jump in and try to get under my skin. I know as a fact he doesn't rate Grievous anywhere near as highly as ILS does (not since TCW at least). But he'd prefer to jump at me because I dared suggest Sidious can't speed blitz Maul.

Yep that right Sidious CAN NOT Speed Blitz Darth Maul. He's Not Capable of such a thing. He can only do such things to The B-Team level and below.

But the B-Team are complete amateurs next to "The Great Sith Lord Darth Maul" - as Count Dooku would put it.

You mean like how Maul is a complete amateur next to Sidious? 313

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Ah yes I remember what you're talking about now. Not quite my wording, but I was just compering the context of that fight next to Kenobi's in ROTS. Doesn't matter now that Grievous has beaten Kenobi once.

In any case I've never had a particularly high opinion of Grievous. Making excuses for his losses is the job of ILS and DarhAnt.

Indeed, as I said you almost always eventually come around to mythe proper way of thinking. It's just a lengthy process of gradually breaking you down and reconstructing you in mythe image of Truthiness. uhuh

Originally posted by The_Tempest

But you've learned. You please me. Your inevitable conversion to Sheevism will please me even more. excellent

Will Never convert. Will always root for Yoda over Sheev anyday, anytime.

The best thing Sheev ever did was train Maul. For that I give him some respect. For the rest of it, can't take him seriously enough with that Clear Pedophile look he has.

You mean like how Maul is a complete amateur next to Sidious?

Like it or not the skill disparity between them is smaller than you think, the difference between them is Sidious has titanic force reserves. Lmao @ him being a complete amateur.

Indeed, as I said you almost always eventually come around to mythe proper way of thinking. It's just a lengthy process of gradually breaking you down and reconstructing you in mythe image of Truthiness.

Indeed that rosy-tinted world of "Truthiness" where you can randomly pop into threads, berate users and then disappear.

You might be right. Kun was quite unorthodox, and the only ones using a Double Bladed Saber in Clone Wars era were Opress and Krell. But neither of them faced Grievous.

At least at beginning of TCW Ventress connected her lightsabers together sometimes.
Every personal guard of Grievous uses equivalent of double blade, so it is nothing new to him.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Will Never convert. Will always root for Yoda over Sheev anyday, anytime.

You will convert. It is unavoidable. It is your destiny.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
The best thing Sheev ever did was train Maul. For that I give him some respect. For the rest of it, can't take him seriously enough with that Clear Pedophile look he has.

Kun's form was unorthodox for his time, it wouldn't be all that unique during the PT era. Maul would've been well familiar with Kun's form imo.

Ignore him Darth Power he only wants to troll in spite of losing the argument as well as lowballing Maul.

He is desperate like I said before.