Originally posted by carver9How high would you rank the P5 individually?
The heroes admitted they were holding back against Adam...same wasn't said for the 5. The heroes were fighting for their life and knew they would die. The weakest of them tanked a charged hammer hit from Thor and broke Red Hulk arm like they were tugging on a twig.
Originally posted by Reflassshh
How high would you rank the P5 individually?
Cyclops = Mid to High trans
Emma = Mid to High trans
Colossus = Mid to High trans
Namor = Low trans
Hell Lord = Mid to High trans
I think you can make a good argument when it comes to Supes, like him being able to injure a Probe but you have to think for a sec, in the same Comic, Thor was able to injure the Phoenix Force (Phoenix Force>>>> Imperiex Probe) and he was still an insect to Cyclops with part of the force.
And honestly, none of the above matters because defeating anyone one of the members are all but one results in this happening...
Which turns this into a massacre.
Originally posted by carver9The phoenix force heavily depends on the host(s). So that's proves nothing. If anything, being repelled by that six heroes team is a low showing for the force...
Cyclops = Mid to High trans
Emma = Mid to High trans
Colossus = Mid to High trans
Namor = Low trans
Hell Lord = Mid to High transI think you can make a good argument when it comes to Supes, like him being able to injure a Probe but you have to think for a sec, in the same Comic, Thor was able to injure the Phoenix Force (Phoenix Force>>>> Imperiex Probe) and he was still an insect to Cyclops with part of the force.
And honestly, none of the above matters because defeating anyone one of the members are all but one results in this happening...
Which turns this into a massacre.
Going by that logic Thanos>Phoenix force because Thanos have consistently no-sold attacks from Thor 😕
About the probe comment, do you think thor can take on the justice league by himself? Because that was what ONE probe was doing, later we see superman one-shotting dozens of probes 👆
The 5 would start laughing at those probes which DD was also beating. Three of the supermen would get dropped in the first minute of the battle and in the case of flat out luck if one member of the 5 goes down, his power feeds the others, a fact that seems to be brushed aside or lack of knowledge of the 5. A little research goes a long way before choosing who you want to....... i mean who will win.
Originally posted by JBL
The 5 would start laughing at those probes which DD was also beating. Three of the supermen would get dropped in the first minute of the battle and in the case of flat out luck if one member of the 5 goes down, his power feeds the others, a fact that seems to be brushed aside or lack of knowledge of the 5. A little research goes a long way before choosing who you want to....... i mean who will win.
Cept Injustice Sups, Kingdom Come and OWAW Supe would drop them instantly with taking their heads off.
Originally posted by Reflassshh
The phoenix force heavily depends on the host(s). So that's proves nothing. If anything, being repelled by that six heroes team is a low showing for the force...Going by that logic Thanos>Phoenix force because Thanos have consistently no-sold attacks from Thor 😕
About the probe comment, do you think thor can take on the justice league by himself? Because that was what ONE probe was doing, later we see superman one-shotting dozens of probes 👆
Agreed. It does depend on the host which is the reason I ranked Namor so low and if any of them were to go down, it would most def be him first. Not worried about him becoming the main person to have the full host inside of him. The others would wreck shop if they had the entirety of the force.
It took plot to repel the host though. A plot in Wanda and Hope. Nothing short of that stood a chance except the power of a Celestial.
That's why Thanos is a trans...because of him no selling Thor attacks, depending on the way Thor is attacking. Still doesn't change what I said though, the five tanked attacks from Thor AND Hulk, something that I don't think any of the peeps they are going against can accomplish. Then, like I said, whichever 2 are standing with the force, it's a stomp. If one of them have all of the force, that makes this even worse than what it is. The Supes can't win this.
Originally posted by carver9
Agreed. It does depend on the host which is the reason I ranked Namor so low and if any of them were to go down, it would most def be him first. Not worried about him becoming the main person to have the full host inside of him. The others would wreck shop if they had the entirety of the force.It took plot to repel the host though. A plot in Wanda and Hope. Nothing short of that stood a chance except the power of a Celestial.
That's why Thanos is a trans...because of him no selling Thor attacks, depending on the way Thor is attacking. Still doesn't change what I said though, the five tanked attacks from Thor AND Hulk, something that I don't think any of the peeps they are going against can accomplish. Then, like I said, whichever 2 are standing with the force, it's a stomp. If one of them have all of the force, that makes this even worse than what it is. The Supes can't win this.
Thanos don't have speed blitz. Whats to stop these supes from speed blitzing their heads off?
I knew this would happen but I still thought that the Supes side would be less rabid
It took plot device to defeat every single one of them
Namor - plot device gun + an entire fresh team of heavy hitters
His defeat made his allies stronger
White Queen fought Thor got shattered (in diamond form) and came back and defeated Thor (this is for all those people who are saying that the Supes can take their heads off, at super speed). Oh yeah I forgot that at this point Emma had planetary + TP
Magik/Colossus - Spidey goaded them into defeating each other (this was after Magik had made a multi dimensional prison that held all the avengers heavy hitters)
Emma was strangled by Scott
The only person who was able to give DP Scott pause (before the Scarlett Witch/Hope team up) was Xavier on of the best in universe TP'ers
Also Scott pulled a Void Sentry "Stop me"
Originally posted by carver9You're saying Thor and Hulk power output exceeds this team's? lol
That's why Thanos is a trans...because of him no selling Thor attacks, depending on the way Thor is attacking. Still doesn't change what I said though, the five tanked attacks from Thor AND Hulk, something that I don't think any of the peeps they are going against can accomplish. Then, like I said, whichever 2 are standing with the force, it's a stomp. If one of them have all of the force, that makes this even worse than what it is. The Supes can't win this.
So they win if the force ends up in a single host? iow an abstract vs 3 trans 2 heralds? I agree 👆
I have yet to see any feat of this incarnation of the phoenix beating something beyond herald level.
Originally posted by maxivitopoweSo you admit this is a spite thread?
I knew this would happen but I still thought that the Supes side would be less rabidIt took plot device to defeat every single one of them
Namor - plot device gun + an entire fresh team of heavy hittersHis defeat made his allies stronger
White Queen fought Thor got shattered (in diamond form) and came back and defeated Thor (this is for all those people who are saying that the Supes can take their heads off, at super speed). Oh yeah I forgot that at this point Emma had planetary + TP
Magik/Colossus - Spidey goaded them into defeating each other (this was after Magik had made a multi dimensional prison that held all the avengers heavy hitters)
Emma was strangled by Scott
The only person who was able to give DP Scott pause (before the Scarlett Witch/Hope team up) was Xavier on of the best in universe TP'ers
Also Scott pulled a Void Sentry "Stop me"
Originally posted by maxivitopowe
No in my mind the P5 win this, but I knew other people would have a different opinion and I wanted to hear that
I think that the P5 are on a totally different level of power. I mean shit dude. Look at all of the powers that they have at their disposal, and the scope of those powers. This isn't Ganthet that they would be dealing with.
Emma and Cyclops was having Dinner telepathically while taking on every Hero on the planet, and they were winning.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13204088/18.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13204089/19.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13204090/20.jpg.html
Emma was taking on some of the most powerful beings on the planet by herself, one of those beings would beat the entire Supermen crew by herself, especially based on what she was doing during AVX.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13200916/AvsX-Zone-010.jpg.html
A blast from Cyke nearly drops Thor.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13147762/AVX-Zone-_012.jpg.html
Namor stomps the Avengers. Outright wrecks them.
High trans ft to be honest.
Magik sword was able to cut clean through Cap shield and revert Juggercolossus back to his normal Colossus self.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12764680/AVX-Zone-9013.jpg.html
Originally posted by carver9
Magik sword was able to cut clean through Cap shield and revert Juggercolossus back to his normal Colossus self.http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12764680/AVX-Zone-9013.jpg.html
Does that mean that sword is cutting through Superman? Let alone trying to land a hit on him with it.
