God's omnipotence

Originally posted by red g jacks
it doesn't make sense to me. i'm still not sure what you're saying.

The idea is that hell is sustained by our own weaknesses. If we do evil stuff knowing it's evil now that we have options, it won't get any easier under torture.

yea. i can agree that it won't get easier under torture. i don't get why that means i wouldn't mind the torture.

Did I say you wouldn't mind torture? If so, it must've slipped through my statements as it wasn't the point I was trying to make.

A torture you don't care about is hardly much of a torture.

you said if i don't mind sinning i might as well say i don't mind being in hell forever. which i always thought would be torture.

Originally posted by red g jacks
you said if i don't mind sinning i might as well say i don't mind being in hell forever. which i always thought would be torture.

I didn't intend to establish a straight relationship between those two things. If there is a link at all between them, it'd be too cynical to put it like that. Certainly not a moral belief.

Originally posted by red g jacks
see, i'm sure this makes sense to you but to me it's pure gibberish. i wouldn't not mind being tortured by satan because i have sinned any more than i would not mind being tortured by isis because i have sinned. it's just a silly thing to say to me.

satan is not the lord in hell, he is also tortured in it... 🙂

my idea is that, no one will go to hell unless he's purely evil... the God of the Bible is fair in judgment and merciful... and He does not forget all the good things we've all done...

"For God is not unjust to forget your work and labor of love which you have shown toward His name, in that you have ministered to the saints, and do minister."
Hebrews 6:10

Originally posted by dyajeep
satan is not the lord in hell, he is also tortured in it... 🙂...

I agree. Satan is not the lord of anything. Satan is mythology, and not real.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Satan is mythology, and not real.

to you, Shak... but for me, he is real... 🙂

Originally posted by dyajeep
to you, Shak... but for me, he is real... 🙂

Then you make Satan real. All you have to do is not believe, and Satan will stop being real. I'm sure you will then ask where does all the evil come from? The answer is simple, it comes from humans. Just like presents on Christmas morning come from your parents and not Santa Claus.

Free your mind... or don't...

Originally posted by dyajeep
satan is not the lord in hell, he is also tortured in it... 🙂

my idea is that, no one will go to hell unless he's purely evil... the God of the Bible is fair in judgment and merciful... and He does not forget all the good things we've all done...

"For [b]God is not unjust to forget your work and labor of love which you have shown toward His name, in that you have ministered to the saints, and do minister."
Hebrews 6:10 [/B]

Originally posted by red g jacks
purely evil as in hitler or something? cause i don't think i'm that bad just a bit amoral.

then i don't think you're going to hell...

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Then you make Satan real. All you have to do is not believe, and Satan will stop being real. I'm sure you will then ask where does all the evil come from? The answer is simple, it comes from humans. Just like presents on Christmas morning come from your parents and not Santa Claus.

Free your mind... or don't...

not that simple... you see, the Bible acknowledges that there's innate lust in people, apart from being tempted by satan:

"But each man is tempted, when he is drawn away by his own lust, and enticed."
James 1:14

so there are sins committed because of satan's temptations, and there are sins committed because out of your own fault...

do you believe in evil spirits? i believe those because they are mentioned in the Bible... evil spirits do exist...

Originally posted by dyajeep
then i don't think you're going to hell...

not that simple... you see, the Bible acknowledges that there's innate lust in people, apart from being tempted by satan:

"But each man is tempted, when he is drawn away by [b]his own lust, and enticed."
James 1:14

so there are sins committed because of satan's temptations, and there are sins committed because out of your own fault...

do you believe in evil spirits? i believe those because they are mentioned in the Bible... evil spirits do exist... [/B]

No, I do not believe in evil spirits. 100% of all the evil in the world is created by humans. There is nothing for Satan or evil spirits to do. Humans don't need a mythological being to temp them. They do quit well on their own.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No, I do not believe in evil spirits.

buddhists believe in devas and brahmas... what are those?

Originally posted by dyajeep
buddhists believe in devas and brahmas... what are those?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Mythology.

buddhism = myth... everything's a myth to you?

Originally posted by dyajeep
buddhism = myth... everything's a myth to you?

Mythology has its place.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Mythology has its place.

tell me, you're not really a buddhist, are you? 😛

Originally posted by dyajeep
tell me, you're not really a buddhist, are you? 😛

tell me, you're not really a christian, are you? 😛

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes I am. I am also a member of SGI.

tell me, you're not really a christian, are you? 😛

i am a Christian, i also post like one... it's just that i'm more on Scriptures rather than traditions... i'm no catholic... 😄

Originally posted by dyajeep
i am a Christian, i also post like one... it's just that i'm more on Scriptures rather than traditions... i'm no catholic... 😄

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