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Originally posted by Astner
Right. But why should God please you? The Bible teaches that you're a sinner and deserving of hell.
How is that what the bible teaches? If so, you might be reading it wrong. The bible tells that we are saved by grace and not by works. All people sin and no one can be perfect. In order to inherit the Kingdom of God all you must do is believe In Jesus that he died for your sins🙂
Take a leap of faith, you might be happy you did.
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Originally posted by Time Immemorial
How is that what the bible teaches? If so, you might be reading it wrong. The bible tells that we are saved by grace and not by works. All people sin and no one can be perfect. In order to inherit the Kingdom of God all you must do is believe In Jesus that he died for your sins🙂Take a leap of faith, you might be happy you did.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
All have sinned, the apt punishment for sin is spiritual death or hell, ergo all deserve hell.
Romans 6:25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
Now Jesus will deliver you from your punishment if you believe in him—see Romans 6:25—but you're technically still deserving of hell.
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Originally posted by Astner
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
All have sinned, the apt punishment for sin is spiritual death or hell, ergo all deserve hell.
Romans 6:25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
Now Jesus will deliver you from your punishment if you believe in him—see Romans 6:25—but you're technically still deserving of hell.
All of this is from a book written by humans, and has nothing to do with the topic or reality.
Originally posted by red g jacks
i'm sure most of us deserve some punishment. i think christianity goes a little overboard with it though. hell should be like prison. you do your bid for a while and then you're done. i don't see the point in eternal punishment.
I'm with you, here, as well.
If our spirits don't have any limitations that our brains put on us but our spirits are still thinking entities, then we could have infinite focus and concentration and never tire when working on a task. I could gladly work as a charity spirit for 1000 years for every sin. So if it took 4 million years to cleanse myself, I'd gladly work for 4 million years.
By charity work I mean helping other mortals with decisions, don't creation grunt work, providing comfort to mortals, etc. (basically, the roles that the Holy Spirit fulfills, at times).
It would be nice if it was really like this. I'm pretty sure it's not.
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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
All of this is from a book written by humans, and has nothing to do with the topic or reality.
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Originally posted by Astner
Christianity was specifically mentioned in the opening post, and both you and riv6672 ignorantly dismissed God's existence with a poorly formulated variation of the problem of evil; which the Bible does answer.
Okay, I see your angle.
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Originally posted by Astner
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
All have sinned, the apt punishment for sin is spiritual death or hell, ergo all deserve hell.
Romans 6:25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
Now Jesus will deliver you from your punishment if you believe in him—see Romans 6:25—but you're technically still deserving of hell.
But would you rather not believe in something and the hope of eternal life then nothing at all?
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Originally posted by Astner
Christianity was specifically mentioned in the opening post, and both you and riv6672 ignorantly dismissed God's existence with a poorly formulated variation of the problem of evil; which the Bible does answer.