Depa Billaba, Jaden Korr, and Gnost-Dural vs the B Team

Originally posted by carthage
She was amped, and in better condition evidently, as Mace had been fighting ever since he left Pelek Baw and kept fighting, stabbed, sustained more injuries, and was disinterested in fighting her. Try reading the post again, she had multiple advantages that she doesn't have her. Fisto likewise is more skilled, as is Agen, who all have beaten opponents without the advantages she had when she engaged a beaten down/disinterested Mace.

If you're going to state facts, get them right. Mace wasn't "disinterested" he didn't want to fight Depa, because he didn't want to hurt her. Yet, despite that, she was still forcing him to fall into Vaapad, both were fragile, weakened, both had been fighting - one for months, the other for a week. Get it right.

She won't be amped in this fight given she isn't mad/wont be drawing on anything in a duel with Fisto. Her speed feats came as a result of being amped, this isn't hard to follow.

She speedblitzed 24 men, moved her blade "faster than the eye could follow" and before that - her blade seemed everywhere to Mace. The text never states that she is drawing on a "Nexus" during these feats and before that, on a mission to Nal Hutta, Mace stated that Depa surpassed him in Blade-work.

Bad analogy, Fisto's victory over Grievous came due to a stylistic advantage in his style not because he was fighting an injured, tired, and disinterested opponent. While he'd be hard pressed given the fact she uses a single blade, she has no other dueling feats to suggest she could beat him and he is still faster. As for his magnaguard feat he cuts them before they realize what happens:

Cool story, where's your proof that Grevious wasn't injured and in a weakened state?

He's also dodged blaster bolts, fought faster than Obi wan could perceive, and fought in a "blur of light with Ventress". He is faster than anyone on team 1 and more skilled as well.

Cool, Gnost has moved faster. Your concession is very graciously accepted.

Cool story bro, bringing up the fact other's trashed Quinlan doesn't debase the fact that he has more impressive feats than any of the people on team 1. Agen being called one of the most skilled Jedi ever produced by the order, beating Quinlan who has beaten Sora Bulq (who pressured Mace Windu), are more important feats of skill tha anything displayed by the fighters in team 1. This isn't a hard train of thought to follow, Team 1 has more skilled fighters due to fighting individuals who actually have significant accolades or showings.

You do realize i could just end this by saying the name "Marka Ragnos" right? who like Tiin and Kolar, is surrounded by a great number of accolades. So, no team 2 isn't as impressive as you think.

You stated Gnost or Jaden would beat Agen through the force, I pointed out Quinlan's feats which surpass Gnost's/are comparable to Jaden to point out that is untrue. Vos has better force feats than Kolar, but still lost a duel due to being outskilled. You have provided no feats to suggest that their force abilities would outweigh Agen's skill.

Quinlans fight with Bulq was after his fight with Kolar, I'm sure it's logical to assume that he trained in that time frame and got better and before that Dooku called Quinlan's skill atrocious. So, Agen fought a less skilled Quinlan.

So its unimpressive when Tiin throws a droid and kills hordes of droids with Mace, but impressive when featless clones kill them? Lmao. Nice double standards kid.

lol @ featless. check down below for an answer to your little find of my "alleged" double-standards.

Please stick to the points.

Please stick to an argument that does not contradict past points, Calling mace weak when compared to Grevious, Kenobi and Kit is not something i expected of you.

I've never dismissed Depa's skill, she just doesn't have the feats to compare with anyone on B team.

Right, like she couldn't beat Tiin or Kolar.

Post the quotes if he has then, it's that simple. If he has then they're on the same speed tier, also Tiin has moved fast enough to appear three places at once which is likely a superior feat given you've provided nothing to prove otherwise.

He moved and killed someone in less than a second....

Lmao the only double standard that exists is yours which I've pointed out twice now. You aren't very good at sticking on topic Bane has nothing to do with this fight.

lol way to get all riled up over me making a Joke. That feat of theirs is real, but insignificant - If I had actually found this feat impressive, i would have mentioned it in my debate with Bantha. lol nice job making of fool out of yourself.

Prove me wrong by posting their feats then.

Sure, maybe later. Kinda busy today. But i won't ignore my favorite guy on KMC 😉

I dedicate this cough syrup drink to you!

Originally posted by Emperordmb
And Fisto's defeat of Grievous was also circumstantial,

It will be enormously entertaining to watch you try and fail at making your case here, so please do so.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Cool story, where's your proof that Grevious wasn't injured and in a weakened state?

But Fisto was hiding in mists and taunting, which provoked Grievous to overreach with desperate attack that cost him an arm.

Jar'kai seems to work better against Grievous. No one was able to legitimately defeat him in sabers including Windu except Ventress. Anyway Fisto at best managed to drive Grievous back a bit and used a Force push to put him on his ass. In the same episode, Fisto is unable to defeat Grievous even with his apprentice attacking from opposite side and clone troopers helping.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
And he also beat Bulq at his prime, unlike when he lost to Kolar.

Tbh, Just read most of Quinlan's story arc recently, and I gotta say he's actually seemed somewhat stagnant.

If you're going to state facts, get them right. Mace wasn't "disinterested" he didn't want to fight Depa, because he didn't want to hurt her. Yet, despite that, she was still forcing him to fall into Vaapad, both were fragile, weakened, both had been fighting - one for months, the other for a week. Get it right.

He outright begged her not to fight him =lack of interest, and she was amped when she fought him. She won't have that amp as per battle rules she won't be mentally compromised like when she fought him, and either of the fighters whether its Fisto or Tiin have superior feats to her one duel which had multiple advantages stacked against Windu that were beneficial toher.

She speedblitzed 24 men, moved her blade "faster than the eye could follow" and before that - her blade seemed everywhere to Mace. The text never states that she is drawing on a "Nexus" during these feats and before that, on a mission to Nal Hutta, Mace stated that Depa surpassed him in Blade-work.

I never stated she was drawing on a nexus, granted there would be darkside energies from the bloodshed that was present and the narrator references that somewhat:

All was silence and death . A whole different world from the madness outside. Inside was a darker madness

Mace also feels dark power from Depa after they clash blades:

Dark power swirled around him

Also Mace is notorious for lavishly giving accolades upon his contemporaries, and I never denied that Depa was skilled. She just has no feats other than her one showing where multiple advantages were stacked in her favor. None of these factors are present in the fight, and she has no other feats to draw inference from to gauge how skill she is in comparison to Fisto/Kolar. Not much can be gauged from a fight when she has a circumstantial amp, and she is fighting an opponent who absolutely doesn't want to fight her/is exhausted and injured.

Cool story, where's your proof that Grevious wasn't injured and in a weakened state?

What are you talking about? The only person who was in a weakened state was Mace when Depa fought him, that's what I meant her fight was circumstantial with him when you tried to compare both situations (when they are incomparable).

Cool, Gnost has moved faster. Your concession is very graciously accepted.

He moved faster than non-force sensitives could perceive, which you know is easy for even Padwans to do? As for his other speed feats they're inferior to the ones I listed. Even the Magnaguards Fisto killed could replicate Dural's feat as per having speed comparable to force sensitives (which are faster needless to say than the soldiers Dural moved past)

You do realize i could just end this by saying the name "Marka Ragnos" right? who like Tiin and Kolar, is surrounded by a great number of accolades. So, no team 2 isn't as impressive as you think.

He beat a weakened Ragnos's spirit, and Ragnos is nothing but hype (unlike Darth Reave) for the most part. Jaden could likely beat Ragnos too given Ragnos has no real showings to his name other than his vaunted status as being a noted past Ancient Sith

He moved and killed someone in less than a second....

That's nice? Not really comparable to dodging blaster bolts, cutting Magnaguards to pieces before they could react, and moving faster than someone like Obi wan could even react too.

ol way to get all riled up over me making a Joke. That feat of theirs is real, but insignificant - If I had actually found this feat impressive, i would have mentioned it in my debate with Bantha. lol nice job making of fool out of yourself.

You claimed I had 'double standards' relating to Tiin throwing a droid and the droid being fodder, yet seemed to have no qualms about citing a similar of Jaden beating fodder stormtroopers/droids (non force sensitives) as well. You find a certain feat impressive is cute and everything, but dismissing one I pointed out while citing you're aforementioned similar one is indeed a double standard. Kthx.

Originally posted by Arhael
He actually wasn't. He replaced his body parts in the same episode.

But Fisto was hiding in mists and taunting, which provoked Grievous to overreach with desperate attack that cost him an arm.

Jar'kai seems to work better against Grievous. No one was able to legitimately defeat him in sabers including Windu except Ventress. Anyway Fisto at best managed to drive Grievous back a bit and used a Force push to put him on his ass. In the same episode, Fisto is unable to defeat Grievous even with his apprentice attacking from opposite side and clone troopers helping.

He couldn't read between the lines, he didn't mean to say Grievous was injured.

He moved faster than non-force sensitives could perceive, which you know is easy for even Padwans to do? As for his other speed feats they're inferior to the ones I listed. Even the Magnaguards Fisto killed could replicate Dural's feat as per having speed comparable to force sensitives (which are faster needless to say than the soldiers Dural moved past)

Gnost-Dural was little more than a blur of motion and movement as he raced through the corridors of Reaver Station. The imperial soldiers he flew past reacted with a mix of surprise, curiosity, and alarm, but he came and went so fast that none of them fully realized what had happened. Left in his wake, they exchanged a few puzzled glances with their friends, then laughed off the odd but seemingly harmless encounter as their minds convinced them that the person who'd just ran past couldn't possible have been moving that fast.

LOL at padawans doing that ^^

He moved as a blur to non force sensitives, that's quite a common result for guys that can move faster than non super human beings's ability to perceive. If Dural had fought faster than being X could perceive, and the guy he fought had good speed feats of his own it might be impressive.

TPM Kenobi replicated moving a blur in the opening scenes of the Phantom Menace, what is so special about what Dural did?

Originally posted by carthage
He outright begged her not to fight him =lack of interest, and she was amped when she fought him. She won't have that amp as per battle rules she won't be mentally compromised like when she fought him, and either of the fighters whether its Fisto or Tiin have superior feats to her one duel which had multiple advantages stacked against Windu that were beneficial toher.

She has speed on her side and even before in a stupid sparring Match she seemed like she was - and I quote "Everywhere" In sparring matches, the duelists hold back a hell of a lot, Just how fast would Depa be if she actually went all out? Hell, her speedblitz of 24 men(in under a minute) was in her weakened state.

I never stated she was drawing on a nexus, granted there would be darkside energies from the bloodshed that was present and the narrator references that somewhat:

Yeah, he's vague about it though - until Kar Vastor comes into play that is. For the entire Gunship fight sequence with Mace and Depa nothing stated she was being amped.

Mace also feels dark power from Depa after they clash blades:

That was with Kar Vastor iirc

Also Mace is notorious for lavishly giving accolades upon his contemporaries, and I never denied that Depa was skilled. She just has no feats other than her one showing where multiple advantages were stacked in her favor. None of these factors are present in the fight, and she has no other feats to draw inference from to gauge how skill she is in comparison to Fisto/Kolar. Not much can be gauged from a fight when she has a circumstantial amp, and she is fighting an opponent who absolutely doesn't want to fight her/is exhausted and injured.

Alright, there are a bunch of things wrong with that argument and I'm sure you know it:

- Mace is notorious for that yes, however even Yoda deems her dangerous.

- Circumstantial like Fisto's fight with Grevious? where not only was the General weakened but also was at a disadvantage due to Fisto's form specialization? not to mention this was well before the General's peak.

- Kolar fought a weak version of Quinlan.

What are you talking about? The only person who was in a weakened state was Mace when Depa fought him, that's what I meant her fight was circumstantial with him when you tried to compare both situations (when they are incomparable).

I accept your Concession on the fact that both Depa and Mace were in weakened states.

He moved faster than non-force sensitives could perceive, which you know is easy for even Padwans to do? As for his other speed feats they're inferior to the ones I listed. Even the Magnaguards Fisto killed could replicate Dural's feat as per having speed comparable to force sensitives (which are faster needless to say than the soldiers Dural moved past)

I lol'ed hard. Gnost has moved with speed that Sith could not react too.

He beat a weakened Ragnos's spirit, and Ragnos is nothing but hype (unlike Darth Reave) for the most part. Jaden could likely beat Ragnos too given Ragnos has no real showings to his name other than his vaunted status as being a noted past Ancient Sith

LOL and Tiin supposed skill doesn't come from pure Hype?

All he has are a few good TK showins, a sparring match and.... Oh yeah, he gets blitz by Sidious. what else is there? Don't be a hypocrite Carthage, Tiin is almost as featless as Ragnos and has only a few good showings even those aren't enough.

That's nice? Not really comparable to dodging blaster bolts, cutting Magnaguards to pieces before they could react, and moving faster than someone like Obi wan could even react too.

That was AOTC Obi-Wan no? I already put his feats you just choose to ignore them and lowball them.

You claimed I had 'double standards' relating to Tiin throwing a droid and the droid being fodder, yet seemed to have no qualms about citing a similar of Jaden beating fodder stormtroopers/droids (non force sensitives) as well. You find a certain feat impressive is cute and everything, but dismissing one I pointed out while citing you're aforementioned similar one is indeed a double standard. Kthx. [/B]

LMAO. It seems you're reading ability is somewhat off today:

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
lol way to get all riled up over me making a Joke. That feat of theirs is real, but insignificant - If I had actually found this feat impressive, i would have mentioned it in my debate with Bantha. lol nice job making of fool out of yourself.

I never claimed that I found that impressive. I was simply making a "Joke" - mocking your attempts at making Saesee Tiin's feat of TKing a droid seem impressive, when a number of people have also done that - and better.

Also, It was The thrawn Clones(Lumiya, Mara Jade, Kyle Katarn, Kam Solusar and Jaden clones along with two other clones of Unknown Jedi) that slaughtered this apparently elite squads of Stormies and Droids(I say "apparently" because Stormies are fodder)

I assume what follows will be, a string of responses that completely ignore my points, a "smart" comment, more BS and the continuation of your lowballing characters. I look forward to seeing all of this. But thank you for conceding your "Quinlan" point and your "Mace being the only weakened one point", it's much appreciated.

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In closing: (Got shit to do atm)

Kit Fisto may be fast, but Billaba is just as fast. and could overwhelm him with her speed and blade prowess.

Agen Kolar's dueling feats are sketchy at best, he beat a less skilled Quinlan Vos and? Gnost has dueled on a place Strong with the dark side and has shown himself a Master of multiple forms and is just as skilled with the force. Gnost would win. plain and simple.

Saesee Tiin has some good TK showings, no doubt about it, Jaden has better, sending a boulder flying, bring down a large pillar and having to adjust it to use it as a bridge, withstanding the combined might of Two powerful clones - including the strongest of them -Soldier, he has Force griped an escape pod pulled him towards him at an incredible speed and used the force to push said Escape pod away from a ship by literally pushing against a ship with the force. Jaden is a better duelist and Force user, He would be the victor in the end.

Team 1 wins. Though it's not at all a "stomp" or a "slaughterhouse' It's a good fight.

B team

She has speed on her side and even before in a stupid sparring Match she seemed like she was - and I quote "Everywhere" In sparring matches, the duelists hold back a hell of a lot, Just how fast would Depa be if she actually went all out? Hell, her speedblitz of 24 men(in under a minute) was in her weakened state.

You have no problem accepting the validity of Depa's feats in spite of having virtually no other showings (like Tiin) I can see. Also I don't really care about entertaining your theoretical notion of "how fast she might be". Again fighting faster than non force sensitives or beings that can't compete with Jedi speed isn't impressive compared to the showings of B team.

Depa nothing stated she was being amped.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
And Depa was also in no condition to fight, she was frail and fragile and needed help to stand. and he didn't get shot, he got stabbed by Depa. He had slept and She had also been fighting for months. Anything else?

[b]She was using Vaapad, of course she's drawing on the darkness. she's moved faster than him, she was stronger than him she was "Too everything" for him. She was forcing him into fully falling into Vaapad

So was she amped or not? You're being inconsistent. If she was amped by Vaapad as you stated on Page 1, then any and all of her speed feats would be a result of her Vaapad amp which was circumstantial due to where she was fighting Mace. She won't receive such a amp in this battle, and you can't even seem to clarify your position as to whether or not she was amped.

Yeah, he's vague about it though - until Kar Vastor comes into play that is. For the entire Gunship fight sequence with Mace and Depa nothing stated she was being amped.

The Jungles of Haruun Kal radiated with darkside energy, and where they were fighting there had been a battle and people died. There would've been some residual darkside energy there, not enough to make her 00ber but enough to put her above an injured Windu in speed. You also admitted she was amped due to Vaapad.

That was with Kar Vastor iirc

Wrong.

She'd been going there to destroy it

Looked like the proton grenade had caught her just in time. She didn't seem to be breathing. In the blind swirl of dark power that filled the bunker, he could not feel if she still lived

She already had her lightsaber in hand, and its irrelevant or not if Vastor was present there or not. As the text shows there was residual darkside energy present that she drew upon.

Alright, there are a bunch of things wrong with that argument and I'm sure you know it:

- Mace is notorious for that yes, however even Yoda deems her dangerous.

Which says nothing about her skill/feats 👆. Yoda also deemed the Yinchorri dangerous, and other random things in his time. That says nothing about her skill as a duelist, and he only did so with reference to the people on Haruun Kal.

- Circumstantial like Fisto's fight with Grevious? where not only was the General weakened but also was at a disadvantage due to Fisto's form specialization? not to mention this was well before the General's peak.

Please learn to delineate between examples, Fisto is just as skillfull and a superior swordsmen to Depa. Any advantage in his form is completely a separate issue to an amp Depa received by circumstance due to fighting in a place at least radiating in dark power somewhat. So what if he wasn't at his peak, Depa has no showings to compare to Fisto's defeat of him, fighting faster than Obi wan could perceive, and wrecking magnaguards.

- Kolar fought a weak version of Quinlan.

You criticize me for lowballing yet you did just that? Regardless, Vos beating Aayla, beating Bulq, and fighting Tholme are still superior feats to anything shown by team 1. Bulq was also considered one of the best swordsmen the Jedi ever produced, no one on team 1 has bested someone on that caliber.

I accept your Concession on the fact that both Depa and Mace were in weakened states.

You and I had both already made that a point? How can I concede to something that you also acknowledged? She also had an additional amp, and Mace had no desire to fight her which you keep leaving out. Do I need to repeat that she has no other showings in comparison to the duels of B team?

I lol'ed hard. Gnost has moved with speed that Sith could not react too.

That would be laughable if the Sith Gnost beat had any feats that compared to Kenobi's, Grievous's, Vos's, Tiin's, or Fisto's speed. If they don't have comparable feats of speed, than it's completely irrelevant to whether or not he was faster than them- because he'd still be slower than either Tiin or Fisto.

LOL and Tiin supposed skill doesn't come from pure Hype?

All he has are a few good TK showins, a sparring match and.... Oh yeah, he gets blitz by Sidious. what else is there? Don't be a hypocrite Carthage, Tiin is almost as featless as Ragnos and has only a few good showings even those aren't enough.

You seem to have no problem accepting sparring matches as valid showings for Depa, and no problem accepting hype for Ragnos. I never even made a reference to Tiin's skill with a blade, I've brought up his force feats the entire time. He is considered one of the best bladesbeings of the order, and that alone by implication (which you base your assessments of Depa/Ragnos o) would still put him at least on a high tier.

That was AOTC Obi-Wan no? I already put his feats you just choose to ignore them and lowball them.

It was Kenobi not long into the Clone wars, and by that time he was already well above Qui Gon in terms of speed. Qui Gon has formed shields out of his blade, dodged blaster fire from 4 shooters, fought imperceptibly fast, run in a blur (Gnost Dural's feat), and formed blurs with his blade.

In fact Obi wan was already faster than Qui gon by the Phantom Menace:

Lunging and twisting, Darth Maul regained the offensive and counterattacked, using both ends of his lightsaber in an effort to cut Obi-Wan's legs out from under him. But Obi-Wan, while not so experienced as Qui-Gon, was quicker. Anticipating each blow, he was able to elude his antagonist's efforts to bring him down.

So Fisto being above Qui Gon, AOTC Kenobi, and surpassing the aforementioned speed feats would put him well above the showings of team 1, as you've provided nothing to surpass the showings I've listed.

LMAO. It seems you're reading ability is somewhat off today:

Which is why you tried to reference Depa's circumstantial feat of a sparring match, attempted to pass of Jaden's lame feat of killing stormtroopers and droids (as an attempt at humor) no less 👆. Please try to stay on point.

Team 1.

I assume what follows will be, a string of responses that completely ignore my points, a "smart" comment, more BS and the continuation [bof your lowballing characters. I look forward to seeing all of this. But thank you for conceding your "Quinlan" point and your "Mace being the only weakened one point", it's much appreciated.

And steal your thunder with such wonderful revelations such as these?:

Agen is featless,

LMAO A battle droid? wow it's not like those are extremely weak or anything, I'm sure no one else has done that before.

So, no team 2 isn't as impressive as you think.

The classic pot calling the kettle black.

Kit Fisto may be fast, but Billaba is just as fast. and could overwhelm him with her speed and blade prowess.

Correction Depa is approaching his speed when she has a Vaapad amp in a bunker with residual darkside energy, she has no speed feats elsewhere that I'm aware of. Also how could she overwhelm him when she is featless aside from her circumstantial/amped showing with Windu? You have no basis for that statement, seeing as she has no other duels.

Agen Kolar's dueling feats are sketchy at best, he beat a less skilled Quinlan Vos and? Gnost has dueled on a place Strong with the dark side and has shown himself a Master of multiple forms and is just as skilled with the force. Gnost would win. plain and simple

There is nothing "Sketchy" about him ko'ing Vos (who is still more skilled than any team 1 duelist). His single showing and status as one of the best Swordsmen ever produced by the order puts him well above Gnost beating Sith of no repute, also "Forms" still is no replacement for no one on team 1 beating opponents like Bulq/Vos/Grievous. So I regret to inform you kiddo, it isn't as plain and simple as you'd like it to be.

Saesee Tiin has some good TK showings, no doubt about it, Jaden has better, sending a boulder flying, bring down a large pillar and having to adjust it to use it as a bridge, withstanding the combined might of Two powerful clones - including the strongest of them -Soldier, he has Force griped an escape pod pulled him towards him at an incredible speed and used the force to push

Tiin lifting and actually supporting the weigh of a massive droid part is more impressive than toppling a pillar:

Tiin redirecting multiple missiles as a feat of precision is more impressive than throwing a boulder:

Lifting the weight of that huge droid piece > pushing an escape pod.

And to reiterate no one on Team 1 has beaten opponents on the caliber of Sora Bulq, Quinlan Vos, General Grievous, or fought faster than Kenobi. Beating random Sith, clones, a weakened Sith spirit, fighting with an amp against an injured/uninterested Mace, are all inferior showings.

The Jungles of Haruun Kal radiated with darkside energy, and where they were fighting there had been a battle and people died. There would've been some residual darkside energy there, not enough to make her 00ber but enough to put her above an injured Windu in speed. You also admitted she was amped due to Vaapad.

im just trying to see your logic, because nexus's and amps are very important to you.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
and yet you still lowball Gnost defeating all of those sith despite the book stating twice that they were one a very powerful darkside nexus, so CLEARLY the sith were amped and that means Gnost defeat of them should be impressive, no? And if the increase of power that the sith got isn't enough it also stated that the nexus made Gnost physically ill. So amped sith, weakened Gnost, still unimpressive?

im just trying to see your logic, because nexus's and amps are very important to you.

Its a good feat but if you read the post, none of those Sith have done anything remarkable. Who have the Sith beaten that compare to fighting two of the best Swordsmen produced by the Jedi order?. A nexus doesn't increase the skill of the Sith.

Originally posted by carthage
Its a good feat but if you read the post, none of those Sith have done anything remarkable. Who have the Sith beaten that compare to fighting two of the best Swordsmen produced by the Jedi order?. A nexus doesn't increase the skill of the Sith.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
It would, however, increase their speed and Gnost moved faster than one of them could even register and speed blitzed another in less than a second. Still unimpressed?

You're bringing up a separate issue. I asked specifically what those Sith have doe to make beating them a comparable feat to any of the duels fought by B team. As for his speed, yeah its a good showing but at best there is nothing else that would make him any faster than Qui gon Jinn. The nexus would've hindered him but that says nothing about how fast he is on neutral terrain, only that he's faster than random Sith with no showings that are amped.

As far as the skill of the opponents go, the two apprentices were unimpressive and Gnost was familiar with Darth Karrids style so his defeat of her was circumstantial, although he was clearly a million times better than her as well.

The two sith lords Lord Quux and Lord Ordez have a single accolade. Gnost-Dural, a master of 4 forms with skill in all seven forms, noted that each of them possessed impressive skill.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
As far as the skill of the opponents go, the two apprentices were unimpressive and Gnost was familiar with Darth Karrids style so his defeat of her was circumstantial, although he was clearly a million times better than her as well.

The two sith lords Lord Quux and Lord Ordez have a single accolade. Gnost-Dural, a master of 4 forms with skill in all seven forms, noted that each of them possessed impressive skill.

I was going to make an edit to my first post calling him the most skilled Swordsmen on team 1. But for all of that none of those Sith rank any higher than the Magnaguards Fisto killed, and even at his best he's only on Quinlan Vos's tier whom the Jedi are superior too. Gnost could likely take Tiin in a saber duel, but lose in a force fight/all out fight imo.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
As far as the skill of the opponents go, the two apprentices were unimpressive and Gnost was familiar with Darth Karrids style so his defeat of her was circumstantial, although he was clearly a million times better than her as well.

The two sith lords Lord Quux and Lord Ordez have a single accolade. Gnost-Dural, a master of 4 forms with skill in all seven forms, noted that each of them possessed impressive skill.