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Uh hello? We're clearly taking about anime Cell here, not manga. The anime Kid Buu large star/solar system feat shows that solar system Cell isn't even close to as big of a stretch as manga Cell. Plus the anime guidebook anime confirms it.

@q99 BoG SSJ2 vegeta > BoG SSJ3 Goku. Master Roshi and Goku themselves say so. Anyway just because you beat solar system level fighters beings doesn't mean you are (for example) multi solar system. You need actual proof to back it up. Anime and Manga DB are 2 separate universes so you need feats/reputable statements/etc. to debate each other. As far as I know, Syn Shenron's galaxy busting guidebook statement is contradicted by GT itself so Gogeta < the far faster but equally powerful BoG trio.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Based on what feat is even anime Cell solar system busting?

The difference between planet and solar system busting is infinitely more than Island and moon, and moon (small planet from the obd) and planet. That's not a valid reason even though I believe anime Cell is a solar system buster.

Originally posted by iscaremonkeys
well if you go back to the sayian saga i specifically remember vegeta saying that if goku did not stop his galick gun he could destroy the whole planet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ilzm8K-AfGs
If vegeta AT THAT LEVEL could do that then cell most definitely could

Originally posted by Q99
No time limit. He can mess around and still win.

Originally posted by Q99
No time limit. He can mess around and still win.

No one in the Dragon Ball verse has even came close to busting a Solar System. Statements from a character is useless when it's actions contradicts it.

Ex. Superman has been said to be the most powerful being in the Universe a few times, doesn't mean it's true.

Originally posted by SquallX
No one in the Dragon Ball verse has even came close to busting a Solar System. Statements from a character is useless when it's actions contradicts it.

Ex. Superman has been said to be the most powerful being in the Universe a few times, doesn't mean it's true.

We know for a fact that Superman is not the most powerful character in the DCU, because we've seen other characters beat him. Conversely, nothing directly contradicts Cell and the guidebook's statement(s) that he could destroy the solar system.

Question, when Cell said that he was going to blow up the solar system during the beginning of his attack, do you think the Z Fighters believed him?

Impossible to say. All we know is that none of the Z Fighters disputed his claim.

Originally posted by carver9
Question, when Cell said that he was going to blow up the solar system during the beginning of his attack, do you think the Z Fighters believed him?

Originally posted by Galan007
Impossible to say. All we know is that none of the Z Fighters disputed his claim.

Would the Z Fighters know his potential?

Originally posted by carver9
Would the Z Fighters know his potential?

Originally posted by carver9
Would the Z Fighters know his potential?

Originally posted by iscaremonkeys
from what im assuming yes. From the simple fact that Freiza destroyed and blew up an entire planet on his own. Knowing that Cell in his perfect form is much more stronger that Freiza i have no doubt the Z fighters doubted his potential to blow up a solar system

I think Frieza is above Planet busting tbh. If you look at it, Frieza was only using .025% of his power during that time (his first form) and with only that fraction of his power, he effortlessly blew up earth 'with two fingers'. No telling what a full potential Frieza could do. Wasn't planer Vegeta much bigger and denser than Earth?

Originally posted by carver9
I think Frieza is above Planet busting tbh. If you look at it, Frieza was only using .025% of his power during that time (his first form) and with only that fraction of his power, he effortlessly blew up earth 'with two fingers'. No telling what a full potential Frieza could do. Wasn't planer Vegeta much bigger and denser than Earth?

Didn't mean to say he blew up Earth...meant to say planet Vegeta. I don't know what Frieza can achieve power wise...I just know he was extremely powerful. I can't say his total destruction because it would be me guessing.

Originally posted by carver9
Didn't mean to say he blew up Earth...meant to say planet Vegeta. I don't know what Frieza can achieve power wise...I just know he was extremely powerful. I can't say his total destruction because it would be me guessing.

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Actually, when they sensed SSJ3 Goku's power on the Kaioshin world, he(Goku) was finished transforming, and as such, was no longer powering up.

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You edited.

Originally posted by banana3

@q99 BoG SSJ2 vegeta > BoG SSJ3 Goku.

And BoG SSJ3 Goku < GT SSJ3 Goku < < SSJ4 Goku <<< SSJ4 Gogeta, as has been heavily supported in this thread.

You're still missing the mark and trying to play games to ignore known data.

You need actual proof to back it up.

You do realize these characters have on-screen fights, with many of the same characters, and directly compare characters to ones both fight, right?

It's been covered, repeatedly. It being inconvenient to your argument doesn't make it not-evidence.

Anime and Manga DB are 2 separate universes so you need feats/reputable statements/etc. to debate each other.

First form General Rildo is stronger than Buu is a reputable statement (the same General Rildo who Goku outmatched). Goku beating Perfect Cell in base form is a feat. The shown power descrepencies between each later form is shown. Etc..

You're just trying to use different phrasings to ignore the numerous battles and power comparisons directly stated on screen. You can't just brush aside all that evidence, and that's what you're doing.