Originally posted by DARTH POWER
^ There's a huge strength, stamina and power gap though.
According to Mustafar duel, there shouldn't be.
^ There's a reason Kenobi kept moving backwards. And it's not just because he's a defensive fighter. He was constantly giving ground to neutralise Anakin's strength advantage. The script even states Kenobi was being "forced" backwards.
Plus the script describes the Anakin, Dooku, Kenobi fight describing Anakin getting stronger as the fight went on whilst Kenobi and Dooku got weaker. The novel describes a similar situation.
Obi-Wan had better balance, while Anakin lacks that. So, it is true that Anakin had better strength and stamina, but he still failed to use it properly against Obi-Wan.
Obi-Wan stepped backward onto the conduit without hesitation, his balance flawless as he parried chop after chop. Anakin came on.(...)
Before Anakin could recover his balance, Obi-Wan took a running leap that became a graceful dive headlong off the crane deck.
---Revenge of the Sith Novel
That balance of Obi-Wan is even better at Windu tbh.
^ Ok what about the passage of the novel with Kenobi trying anything desperate to slow Skywalker down? And with Skywalker Force slamming Kenobi against the room?
The novel also makes it clear they knew each others moves inside out, which is the same thing Nick Gillard said. Which was the reason given for them being so equal in skill and combat prowess.
Originally posted by Marco1907
Well, I know one thing now, we should consider ''balance'' in these debates from now on, clearly Obi-Wan was not faster and stronger than Anakin but he still won in the end. RotS Novel implies that he won because of the ''balance''.
But the film showed he won by gaining the tactical advantage. Nothing to do with Fencing Prowess.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
But the film showed he won by gaining the tactical advantage. Nothing to do with Fencing Prowess.
Well that too, I agree. 'Sokan' is another weapon of Kenobi. He used that technique many times, even before Mustafar as well.
Lets say he stalemated via balance advantage, won via tactical advantage.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
But the film showed he won by gaining the tactical advantage. Nothing to do with Fencing Prowess.
Still, Anakin made a tactical mistake that Obi-wan wouldn't. Windu is a superior combatant to Kenobi and there is no reason to believe Anakin would do better against Windu. Besides, the calm ROTS Anakin wouldn't be as powerful as he was at that point and a raged Anakin would do even worse against Windu.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Except Dooku is also a superior combatant to Kenobi, and Skywalker DID perform better against Dooku than he did against Kenobi, so your point is void.
But we know that part of the fight was majorly circumstantial and in the exact same situation, it would go the opposite way with Windu.
Originally posted by Marco1907
I don't see any speed or skill disparity between Anakin & Obi-Wan here, honestly. This is a really good example since they were fighting against the basically same level opponents ;
But we know that part of the fight was majorly circumstantial and in the exact same situation, it would go the opposite way with Windu.
If we remove circumstances, it leaves both Anakin and Windu with the same saber prowess but Anakin has power advantage, which gives Anakin higher win probability.
