Originally posted by Arhael
How do you know how it would go with Windu? 0.oIf we remove circumstances, it leaves both Anakin and Windu with the same saber prowess but Anakin has power advantage, which gives Anakin higher win probability.
Never underestimate the power of Vaapad. Besides, they were in a pretty narrow area while fighting and Anakin's dueling style isn't gonna stress Windu as much as it did Dooku.
Originally posted by carthage
You werent quoting me dawg. Windu struggled with Bulq, Tiin, Ventress, and Grievous. He'd fare no better than Dooku did against the flaming passion of the furnace heart
Never underestimate the power of Vaapad. Besides, they were in a pretty narrow area while fighting and Anakin's dueling style isn't gonna stress Windu as much as it did Dooku.
Spoiler:
level 9
Dooku's style is not weaker than Mace's against Anakin.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
1. He puts Sidious, Yoda, Windu and Anakin on the same level (in terms of Saber duelling). He doesn't mention Dooku.2. He explains they are equal, when fighting each other, because they know each others moves inside out. But he still made it clear Anakin is a level above Kenobi.
Considering Anakin and Mace are on Dooku's level, that'd put them as 9s as well.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Considering Anakin and Mace are on Dooku's level, that'd put them as 9s as well.
I'm not saying Dooku wasn't a 9. Just that he wasn't mentioned.
But to be honest, I think both ROTS Anakin and Windu are "stronger" duellists than Dooku. But I've always maintained that Dooku is one of the top elite in terms of combat skill and could comfortably stalemate Windu if he just fights defensively.
If he tries to overpower Windu however I see Windu's superior strength giving him the win.
Originally posted by carthage
And I assume you'd wank Windu in spite of the fact his showings are more comparable to Kenobi than posters here want to admit
So u mad. That's all I needed to know.
Lowball all you want per usual, matching Sidious as said in the other thread with his unseen speed or skill is an impressive feat, vapaad's amp being irrelevant.
Maybe Anakin beats him but suggesting Mace is unskilled or is heavily outskilled is being mad for the sake of being mad.
Originally posted by Arhael
Vaapad is what allows Windo to perform at his best ability, which is guess what:Spoiler:
level 9Dooku's style is not weaker than Mace's against Anakin.
His best varies with the opponent wouldn't you agree?
I mean, at his best he defeated Sidious after all. Something Anakin couldn't hope to achieve at that point.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
What? No. By ROTS Anakin was just more powerful than Dooku.
and Windu wasn't?
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
What? No. By ROTS Anakin was just more powerful than Dooku.
Dude just accept this fact already, Dooku only lose because of Kinetic power of Djem-So x Makashi loop (this is even in Novel), not because Anakin was more powerful than Dooku, otherwise Anakin could wipe the floor with Obi-Wan but he didn't only stalemate with him, he also lost to Obi-Wan.
TCW also showed that Dooku had hard time against Savage Opress's kinetic power, Dooku has weakness and Anakin had the ability to reveal it not Obi-Wan.
MagnaGuards example is also proves this, Anakin & Obi-Wan were at the same level in terms of dueling ability.
Originally posted by Sinious
and Anakin's dueling style isn't gonna stress Windu as much as it did Dooku.
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Originally posted by Marco1907
Dude just accept this fact already, Dooku only lose because of Kinetic power of Djem-So x Makashi loop (this is even in Novel), not because Anakin was more powerful than Dooku, otherwise Anakin could wipe the floor with Obi-Wan but he didn't only stalemate with him, he also lost to Obi-Wan.TCW also showed that Dooku had hard time against Savage Opress's kinetic power, Dooku has weakness and Anakin had the ability to reveal it not Obi-Wan.
MagnaGuards example is also proves this, Anakin & Obi-Wan were at the same level in terms of dueling ability.
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Anakin and Obi-Wan were at the same level of "skill". But Gillard clearly put Anakin on the same level as Yoda, Mace and Sidious in overall Saber Prowess. A level above Kenobi.
Dooku had no "weakness" to Kinetic energy. You need to get that silly idea out of your head. The ROTS novel never once says that's the reason Dooku lost to Anakin. What it says in fact is that Anakin's immense Power just made all of Dooku's skill and Force Knowledge a complete Joke.
It's actually Kenobi who was able to be Skywalker's equal when fighting him, due to a Clash Of Styles and Intimate Knowledge of Each Other.
Kenobi's Soresu simply gave ground to compensate for Skywalker's superior strength. It's possible Dooku could fight Mace equally in the same way.
Savage landed 1 successful hit on Dooku. JUST 1. Which you keep harping on about, even though you know very well Dooku was fighting off 2 opponents in a cramped space on that fight.
Skywalker used Djem So throughout all of his fights against Dooku, yet his kinetic energy was never beyond Dooku's means to handle throughout TCW. In fact he was Stalemating both Kenobi and Skywalker combined in just Sabers during their Season 6 battle.
Marco is time you accepted that the scene of Skywalker defeating Dooku was put there to show just how Powerful Skywalker was by this point. It wasn't put there to show Makashi's weakness to Djem So LOL.
"Soon I will have a new apprentice. One Far Younger AND MORE POWERFUL!"
@DP
And Lucas never put Anakin in a same level with Yoda and Mace ;
"You have to be either Mace or Yoda to compete with the Emperor," Lucas says.--George Lucas, The Making Of Revenge Of The Sith; page 204
Lucas > Gillard nonetheless
And Lucas is the responsible for the Savage overpowered Dooku with one stroke thing, was Savage's power greater than Dooku ? Of course not.
All things considered, I think Dooku supporters trying to show Anakin as some kind of unstopable god to finding an excuse for Dooku's defeat in Invisible Hand, but thing is, Anakin was not powerful as you people think.
Anakin's balance was not good enough to defeat Obi-Wan. Nor he was powerful enough to stomps the likes of Asajj Ventress, Barriss Offee etc.
Originally posted by Sinious
Are you saying that Anakin has as much chance as Vaapad Windu against Sidious? 🤨
Maybe not, because Skywalker takes time to get stronger. And he needs to be at full strength from the beginning of a fight against Sidious, which he wouldn't be.
Once he is at full strength though, Skywalker is a match for FULL ON VAPAAD WINDU!
And no, Dooku never defeated Anakin in a lightsaber duel at TCW as well, he was losing to him twice, he saved himself with magnaguards in the first one, in the second he used his force powers. (same thing with Savage)
First ;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqeEjv1_eOc
Second ;
Originally posted by Arhael
And you are seriously underestimating Anakin. He is "...up there with Sidious".
Do you really believe that shit.... ?
Gillard talks nonsense in there tbh, he also said ''Obi and Anakin just match each other PERFECTLY.''
All people need to ignore Gillard's rankings on Anakin's power level. Lucas already explained Anakin was not on the same level with the Emperor, Yoda and Mace.
