Help on top 20 Sith?
I have revised a new list and well would like any opinions on who should be switched around and stuff, sorry for the list being shoddy, I made this like at midnight.
Palpatine
Vitiate
Plagueis
Nihilus
Dread Masters
Caedus
Hord
Vader
Krayt
Bane
The Jen'Ari
Exar Kun
Dooku
Zannah
Traya
Ulic Qel-Droma
Freedon Nadd
Malak
Maul
Sion
Nox and Wrath have to be up there and I forgot Malgus and well the DC. I would put Malgus below Bane and the DC members below Kun. Nox above Traya and Wrath above Dooku Do note that the Jen'ari and DC members are represented one on one, I just don't want the majority of the list to be comprised of guys who's powers, besides the ones that don't fight, are more or less equal. DM's are the exception although by themselves are monsters from what I hear anyways.
Malgus is vastly more powerful and skilled than Bane
Malgus has telekinetically blown away the rubble of two buildings, ragdolled/telekinetically dominated the strike team he fought (Hero/Barsen/Nox/Wrath), lifted a boulder that blocked a mountain path, impacted a ship high in the air with a force wave, telekinetically force grasped Zeerid's shuttle as it lifted off, ragdolled Jedi, brought down a pillar with force scream, blown up Republic interceptor ships with force scream, shaken an entire manse with force scream rattled transparisteel with force scream, , and ragdolled Jedi, Malgus needed no nexus for these feats unlike Bane.
Bane has thrown a table hard enough to break it, killed men with a couch, telekinetically disrupted the organs of guards, killed guards with tk, broken a Sith lord's spine, thrown guards against walls, levitated a girl, broken a girls spine, and broken boxes and tents on Ruusan. Bane is nowhere near as powerful as Malgus as Bane's best "feats" take place on nexuses and he was amped when he performed then
Malgus is a better duelist than Bane. Bane has only beaten Fohargh and Sirak (after losing the first time) and fought evenly with Zannah (who has only beaten a featless half trained Jedi Knight). He was amped by Orbalisks/a nexus when he beat the Tython strike team, and he didn't beat them by virtue of his own skill. Bane has never beaten anyone by virtue of his own skill apart from featless trainees.
Malgus has beaten Ven Zallow, Kao Cen Darach, beaten Satele Shan twice, beaten a Zabrak Jedi master that toppled two buildings on him, beaten Lord Adraas, beaten Aryn Leneer twice, and dominated the strike team sent to fight him before going down. Bane is nowhere near the same tier as Malgus as a duelist.
Exar Kun, Darth Traya, Darth Maul, Savage Opress, Darth Krayt, Darth Malgus, Lumiya, Ulic Qel Droma, Wrath, Nox, Vader, and Dooku are all above Bane.
Malak might be above Bane too, I'm not sure.
Anyway a tier system with the guys you have should be something like this imo:
1. Sidious, Plagueis, Caedus, Tenebrous (Tier 10 duelists/force users)
2. Maul, Dooku, Vader, Lumiya (Tier 8.5-9) (Maul and Lumiya are outliers)
3. Kun, Krayt, Traya, Malgus, (Tier 8)
4. Wrath, Nox, Ulic, Xesh?
5. Bane, Zannah, Malak, Savage Opress,
Guys like Wyyrlok, Malak, Baras, and Opress might need their own tier too, hmm
Nadd, Vitiate, Nihilus, Muur, and the spirits are hard to rank.
Originally posted by Revanchiste
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMRtxAbQLVM
Very poor list
Ok, here's a better list IMO:
1.Palpatine
2.Vitiate
3.Plagueis
4.Nihilus
5.Dread Masters
6.Caedus
7.Tulak Hord
8.Krayt
9.Vader
10.Malgus
11.Order of Sith Lord's (Bane's Lineage up until Plagueis. Plagueis, Palpatine, Dooku, Maul, and Vader vary.)
12.Bane
13.Exar Kun
14.Count Dooku
15.Dark Council members and Emperor's Wrath (The ones who fight, ones in politics aren't in it.)
16.The Jen'ari
17.Traya
18.Malak
19.Freedon Nadd
20.Maul
Originally posted by The Merchant
Well I hold a pretty lofty view on Bane, so it'll be hard to change my opinion on him. Looking at Malgus's feats they're better but Bane with his Orbalisk armor is pretty strong.
Orbalisk Bane's feats mainly take place on nexuses, as the best he could do with TK was send Zannah flying lol. His lightning is ok, but lightning has never earned him a victory against a powerful force sensitive.
Malgus's ragdolling/domination of the strike team (who are collectively more powerful), is more impressive than just sending Zannah flying backward. Likewise, Kun is a better duelist than Bane (beating Vodo/stalemating Ulic Qel Droma before his prime are better dueling feats than beating two featless trainees. Likewise Traya has oneshotted multiple Jedi masters at one, ragdolled them, and killed them with force drain (which Bane needed a nexus to use). Maul, Krayt's. and Dooku's feats are well known they've beaten superior individuals to Bane, and I'm sure I don't need to tell you their feats.
Bane is massively overrated and doesn't belong to be ranked along with high tier Sith.
Well I've always felt like Malgus was above Bane TBH, the original list I posted was pretty eh. Originally I had Maul and Kun sharing a spot, and the more I think about it he should be in-between 15 and 16 at the least, dunno why I put him at the bottom. Where would you put Bane on my list, and if you had to switch around several people as well.
Nah I think Hord and the Dread Masters are top-tier. I take what is said aout Hord at face-value, even if something was exaggerated like say him killing 1000 Jedi, I think he had the power to bring down ships and he did kill 1000 Jedi, albeit not at the same time. Dread Masters destroyed whole fleets with devices that only they could control out of Millions of Sith, them getting taken out by a Strike Team is just bad Bioware writing.
None of them have any showings warranting them being above any of the Sith with feats. They're hype and that's about it really. Hord has no showings to put him above Bane, and the Dread masters getting taken out by featless Jedi is more or less proof they're fodder. I'm unsure about Malak being over Bane at least, they should be equal. What do you think?